Speeding Ticket

[smguser]

Now if you were a physician, CVC 21058, may have been a different story.

[1CavScout]

I was not a traffic car, and I didn't write many tickets when I was working patrol. I only gave tickets to the drivers who wanted to argue with my for my reason to stop.

Same here. I did not like writing tickets, and never worked traffic.

[John M]

Unless you lie to me or come at me with a huge attitude, your getting off with a warning.

[Caddis]

OP,
Some CHP are wrapped a little tight because their primary duties are limited to traffic enforcement (CHP compared to city cops is a post for another day).

Most city cops have traffic units and some, including one I worked for, made everyone write tickets (quotas). Every cop has their own criteria as to who gets a pass on a cite. The danger of the violation is usually the first criteria. It is a discretionary infraction or misdemeanor, and each officer decides whether or not to cite. Going 80 mph is above the state speed limit and even doctor's are subject to a cite as this speed is not exempt under CVC21058 (nurses are not exempt under this statute).

My personal list of people I will not cite are public safety personal (sworn police, and fire and their immediate spouse), nurses and doctors(we need these folks on our side when doing our job at ER's and when they may be pulling a bullet out of me one day), clergy, active military, and people who have influence over my agencies budget. I also usually take it easy on the elderly and very young drivers with no priors. A really bad attitude from any of the above (except for PS) is a game changer.

Your Code Blue reasoning is not a good reason unless there was a major mass casualty event occurring and most cops would probably be working it too...but there may be a chippie still lurking out there (only kidding, love you guys).

[professorfate]

Seems like most of the tickets are determined by attitude. Nice to see really mature responses from adults. I'd think principles would play into the issuance of a ticket, but that just got thrown out the window.

[Samuelx]

Seems like most of the tickets are determined by attitude.

Jumping to conclusions with "most". Attitude is ONE Factor.

Nice to see really mature responses from adults.

Sarcastic/facetious or straight?

I'd think principles would play into the issuance of a ticket, but that just got thrown out the window.

Care to explain what you meant by that?

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ETA nevermind - just another POS troll now on Ignore

[TRICKSTER]

Seems like most of the tickets are determined by attitude. Nice to see really mature responses from adults. I'd think principles would play into the issuance of a ticket, but that just got thrown out the window.

Since the purpose of stopping someone for a violation is to gain compliance of the law, and the issuance of a citation is only one of the options used to gain compliance, what is your point?

[softscrubb]

The best way for anyone to avoid a ticket is honesty and humility. Sorry officer, I was speeding because of 'x'. If you approach it with abpositive attitude of contrision than 9 out of 10 times I didn't write you the ticket. bif the person stopped immediately had a bothered, annoyed attitude or said 'arent there better things to be doing' they always got a ticket.

from the great nowhere

[22348b cvc]

Now if you were a physician, CVC 21058, may have been a different story.

21058 only applies to Prima Facia speeds(22350) and not to max speed violations. Most hospitals will not touch these anymore due to the liability it opens them up for or so I have been told by a ER doctor I am friends with. In all reality I have stopped more cars than I care to think about and have never come across a ER doctor trying to pull this exemption.

The best chance for me issuing a warning is if someone is humble and does not lie to me. Lying to me or having a poor attitude is a guarantee you will be leaving the encounter with at least a ticket.

[akoba]

You bring your firearm in hospital building? Most Hospitals don't allowed firearm inside the building (except LEO). Or you leave it in your car on the parking lot? Worse idea leaving it in the parking lot.

[MaHoTex]

The objective of a stop is to gain compliance for the law. This does apply equally, it is the disposition that may be different and that is at the discretion of the officer. If the person seems to be truly sorry and honestly acknowledges their mistake, then there may be room for a warning.

Unless it is a motor officer. Now, I'm not an LEO, but I've heard those dudes will give a ticket to their own mother.

I have been stopped a few times over the past decades (maybe like 3 or 4 in nearly 30 years) and never had a warning that I can recall. I am always respectful, yes sir/no sir, answer honestly etc.

Sign here and have a nice day. Though, I can say I have not received a citation that I hadn't earned honestly.

[retired]

EDIT:

If anyone is wondering why the above statement no longer flows, it is because it has been edited by Retired. It is funny that on a web forum supporting the second amendment, the first amendment is looked down upon.

Yep, you are correct, I edited your post. Your leo bashing comment about the CHP was actually enough to delete it and you from this forum, but by editing it, it allowed the rest of your post and your opinion to be seen by the members. Obviously I made a mistake in editing your post and giving you a break.

FYI, this is a privately owned website and you therefore have no First Amendments rights here. The owner has posted the rules and the staff assists him in enforcing them. If you do not care to follow the rules here on Calguns, it is certainly within your prerogative to quit Calguns, tho we do not want to lose any member.

Until that time, since you obviously have no intent of following the rules for this specialty forum, you won't have to be bothered with them anymore since you will no longer have to suffer viewing the leo forum.

As to our other members here, please do not respond to GoZoner or professorfate as they will no longer be visiting this forum either. Thank you.

[ncortez11]

To my knowledge, code blue is a life or death situation that a person is having. Well, at least in Los Angeles County Hospitals. Also, code blue is only announced at the hospital itself and they don't call people at their homes for it. Again, like everyone says, you are not equipped to be driving in that situation. Sounds like you were late to work and highly doubt that would be a reason to fight it at court. Honesty goes a looong way.

[eltee]

Were you driving an "official looking" Crown Vic? I thought read reference to that in this thread. If so, from an officer's standpoint you have a speeder, with a marginal alibi, who declares he's packing, and is driving a lookalike car.

I would not normally cite a medical practitioner enroute to work if the violation wasn't serious and he/she passed the attitude test and all docs were good 2 go. However, I won't second guess another person's judgement.