Speeding Ticket

[Samuelx]

Hey BM, in case you didn't know, there are more than a few non-leo yahoos here who like to reply to questions specifically asked to leos...

[b_madeiros]

I noticed that. I have been around. My neighbor is a Chipper and i have two cousin that are LEOs hell I almost became a CO twice...I can tell when people like to play internet COP

[Ron-Solo]

You have NO excuse to break the law, you speed you pay, stop trying to get a free ride.

If you're not a LEO, go away.

If you are a LEO, your attitude needs some serious adjustment.

The OP asked a valid question and wasn't looking for a free ride.

I never knowingly cited a nurse, doctor, or hose jockey, with one exception. That was because he was being a major Adam Henry and really needed the ticket. I also avoided citing military and school teachers if I could avoid it. Teachers put up with too much other nonsense.

[Petro6golf]

I would send you on your way but then again im not CHP

[SMarquez]

If you're not a LEO, go away.

If you are a LEO, your attitude needs some serious adjustment.

The OP asked a valid question and wasn't looking for a free ride.

I never knowingly cited a nurse, doctor, or hose jockey, with one exception. That was because he was being a major Adam Henry and really needed the ticket. I also avoided citing military and school teachers if I could avoid it. Teachers put up with too much other nonsense.

I got a kick out of the new pilot LACOFD hired 6-7 years ago named Adam Henry. I think it was because he really is a peach of a guy and can fly the **** out of those copters.
Every Chippie that stopped at my station swore they didn't write firemen, but we heard about 2-3 guys a month that got tagged by chippies, no questions asked.

[HP911]

From my perspective, a good attitude (and a relatively clean driving record) goes a long way.

On the other hand, if someone is going to be rude and discourteous and I see they've gotten cited for multiple repeat violations in the past, well sit tight because I write slow.

[Samuelx]

Btw, for those of you Reasonably Intelligent regular folks who don't have a reading comprehension problem and who might be wondering - there IS this thing called Discretion. No one is saying certain people or groups ALWAYS get a "pass" OR those who aren't certain people or in certain groups NEVER get a "pass". I've given "passes" to all sorts of regular folks for all sorts of stuff including minor arrestable offenses and warrants (much less for infractions like speeding). Attitude goes a Long way with me - respect, honesty, responsibility, humility, etc. If you want to act like a crybaby, b1tch and moan, and point fingers elsewhere like SOME people (not saying specifically who) your chances for getting a break rapidly diminish towards zero.

[sfbay]

How many LEOs here give speeding tickets to Nurses responding to Code Blue at work? I was called in to work because of a shortage and was speeding to help out on a Code Blue. Radar says 80 and I got the ticket and the CHP seemed upset when I mentioned I had a firearm and permit too. Any opinions I thought some LEOs are more relaxed in these type of situations.

i wouldn't have given you a ticket...


chp has a hard time seeing the results of serious traffic accidents. i don't fault them, but sorry you got the ticket.

[Ron-Solo]

Shocking, the law doesn't apply equally to all. Have a good attitude, show respect but not be 'a nurse, doctor or hose jockey [... or ...] military or school teacher' and you get a ticket. You also get that ticket unless I 'may have to interact with on a daily or emergency basis' - which sounds like code for "no ticket if you are my 'buddy'" Shocking, just shocking.

I also gave thousands of warnings to "regular folks" in my career.

Sad thing is, too many outside of those listed professions start with a poor attitude or that surly phrase, "What did you stop me for?" when they generally know exactly what they got stopped for. You want to guarantee a ticket, use that line, or the "you just stopped me because I'm _______, or my favorite, "Why aren't you out catching real criminals?"

[johnthomas]

no need to fight it. I have consulted my lawyer already he mentioned the traffic judge is suspending DL in sac county for speeding. Its funny that you are the second person to mention going into a different line of work. I save lives daily there is no better rush then getting adrenline going during a code. maybe thats why i was rushing...just a thought. because I get a ticket it will not convince me to make pizzas.

I think you misunderstood my post. The facility you work at should have the ability to take care of a code blue without relying on someone that is not there. You obviously do good work and I wouldn't suggest you find something else other than what you love and do well at.

[TRICKSTER]

Shocking, the law doesn't apply equally to all. Have a good attitude, show respect but not be 'a nurse, doctor or hose jockey [... or ...] military or school teacher' and you get a ticket. You also get that ticket unless I 'may have to interact with on a daily or emergency basis' - which sounds like code for "no ticket if you are my 'buddy'" Shocking, just shocking.

The objective of a stop is to gain compliance for the law. This does apply equally, it is the disposition that may be different and that is at the discretion of the officer. If the person seems to be truly sorry and honestly acknowledges their mistake, then there may be room for a warning. If they display an attitude that shows that they really don't care that they were speeding or deny it, then it is quite obvious that they will most likely just do it again and a warning will only reinforce their poor behavior.

I suppose that you have the same problem with traffic court. Do you believe that everyone that is found guilty should receive the same fine no matter the circumstances, that everyone should be fined the maximum amount allowed by the law?

[CBR_rider]

How many LEOs here give speeding tickets to Nurses responding to Code Blue at work? I was called in to work because of a shortage and was speeding to help out on a Code Blue. Radar says 80 and I got the ticket and the CHP seemed upset when I mentioned I had a firearm and permit too. Any opinions I thought some LEOs are more relaxed in these type of situations.

According to more than a couple of the posters on this site and gun owners elsewhere, your mention of the firearm should have resulted in an immediate search of your vehicle, a colonoscopy to check for more firearms, and finally the seizure of your firearm(s). Personally, I doubt his being "upset" had anything to do with your firearm and permit. He was probably more upset by what he/she saw (whether or not it was your intention) as a lame excuse to get out of a ticket.

The problem with being "relaxed" on such a traffic stop is the fact that: a) you were violating the law b) you were attempting to justify your putting of other motorists at risk for really no reason (It is good that extra help was on its way to the hospital, but its not like you were a neurosurgeon on his way to save a patient's life. You need to arrive in one piece to be on hand to assist in any potential crisis) c) you had a firearm in the vehicle d) it is not only "bad looking" people with firearms kill other folks. LEO's get killed by all sorts of people who are in all kinds of professions/socioeconomic levels. Heck, some of the "bad guys" even are/used to be LEO's themselves! This is not an excuse to be a jerk or unprofessional, but it is simply the reality that being "relaxed" is not ever a good state to be in when working the road as a LEO.

As for those who have whined in about LEO's giving hospital staff/whoever a break, I give all kinds of people breaks. But I can also say that if I ever pull a LEO over for some stupid driving or if they try just waving a badge at me and driving off as I walk up in their off duty car, you can bet they will be getting a ticket and a phone call to their supervisor (for the last one!). And that is the same response (ticket/phone call to a supervisor if necessary due to the stop's relation to the offenders line of work) I would give to anyone else driving like an idiot.

[p7m8jg]

If you don't have a red light and siren, you're putting everyone in danger by speeding to work.

If the hospital is short handed, they could call the fire dept in an emergency situation to get help until off duty personnel (like you) arrived.

Anyone killed or injured while you're speeding to the hospital would sue you for negligence, not the hospital you work for.

It's a no-win situation. Drive normally and get there safely. Whoever lives, lives and who dies, dies.

It's not up to you.

[b_madeiros]

I think you misunderstood my post. The facility you work at should have the ability to take care of a code blue without relying on someone that is not there. You obviously do good work and I wouldn't suggest you find something else other than what you love and do well at.

your right and they can. I can put a code in way you can relate, like when multiple officers respond to a call when they know there is enough help but there is always ways to reduce the load even more. I was more ambitious then i should have been and I know my driving record is not pretty either. Hell I made it to the CHP interview but was killed in it after being question about my previous driving record.

[FLIGHT762]

I know my driving record is not pretty either. Hell I made it to the CHP interview but was killed in it after being question about my previous driving record.

Now that you brought this up, this is a major contributing factor, at least to me in my decision to cite or not to cite. A poor driving record shows an inability on the driver to comply with the law. I don't know if this was a factor in your case, but it could have been if your driving record still shows multiple offenses.

This is why L/E is given discretion. It's a judgement call on a particular situation to make a reasonable, correct decision given the particular circumstances.