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  • #16
    Ron-Solo
    In Memoriam
    • Jan 2009
    • 8581

    Originally posted by J-cat
    Can you give us an example, then, using that scenario:

    Say my neighbor gets in a shootout with the cops and runs inside his house, refusing to come out. Can I be forced to leave my residence?
    Like I said, each circumstance is different. Your added scenario is a maybe, because there are too many variables.

    You can't seem to grasp tat basic concept, which is something that LEOs deal with all the time.

    Each situation is different. End of story.
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    • #17
      J-cat
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2005
      • 6626

      Originally posted by Ron-Solo
      Like I said, each circumstance is different. Your added scenario is a maybe, because there are too many variables.

      You can't seem to grasp tat basic concept, which is something that LEOs deal with all the time.

      Each situation is different. End of story.
      I do grasp that concept.

      Can I minimize the variables so that you can answer? If so, which variables would you like me to address?

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      • #18
        yzErnie
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Mar 2007
        • 6309

        Each and every situation has its own set of variables. For example, you may handle 10 domestic disturbance calls on a shift but each one is different and with its own variants. You cannot blanketly say how any one situation should of, or could of, been handled because of that very reason.

        None of us were there, none of us have the imtimate details of what really happened at that incident and none of us here can make some ill advised comment of what shoulda/coulda/woulda have happened.
        Last edited by yzErnie; 07-07-2013, 6:30 PM.
        The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

        Originally posted by RazoE
        I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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        • #19
          SVT-40
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2008
          • 12906

          I'm curious as to why it took almost two years for this to surface.......

          If it had truly occurred as in the complaint, I would think that it would have been front page news the day after.......
          Poke'm with a stick!


          Originally posted by fiddletown
          What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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          • #20
            Ron-Solo
            In Memoriam
            • Jan 2009
            • 8581

            Originally posted by J-cat
            I do grasp that concept.

            Can I minimize the variables so that you can answer? If so, which variables would you like me to address?
            Sorry, no, because now we are just playing silly "what if" games and playing with words.

            Each incident will have to stand on its own merits, based on what is reasonable and prudent at the time of the incident.
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            • #21
              Patrick Aherne
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 1064

              Let's take evacuations due to fire, as an example. A number of years ago, we had a canyon fire that became very dangerous. My partner and I were sent down a narrow, winding street to evacuate or assist anyone who was trapped in a home, like an invalid/elderly. I kicked in many doors that day searching for folks who were smart enough to leave on their own. Never got a complaint or a claim against the city, which is an interesting aside. If I had kicked in your door and you refused to leave, I would have left you and told you no one was going to risk their butt to save you if you didn't come immediately. I did not have time to argue with morons as the fire approached. My time was better spent checking other houses. I viewed it as triage; why waste time on someone who didn't want my help when there were plenty of others who needed it and not enough cops to go around.

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