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  • J-cat
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2005
    • 6626

    Exigency



    What justification do the police have to seize a neighbor's residence when attempting to contain a dangerous suspect?
  • #2
    StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 2995

    WOW! Unbelievable (or maybe not) if that article is accurate. I'm really curious how this will be defended?
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    • #3
      StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 2995

      Originally posted by J-cat
      http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/05/la...gate-neighbor/

      What justification do the police have to seize a neighbor's residence when attempting to contain a dangerous suspect?
      It sounded like they wanted to use the residence for surveillance. No exigent circumstance seemed to have existed. If there was they should have been at the suspects front door not their neighbors.
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      • #4
        CBR_rider
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 2717

        I'm curious to see "what really happened" as well. Of course as the situation as presented by the plaintiffs' attorneys the situation seems simply inexcusable. What I really want to see is WHY they wanted the house to gain a "tactical advantage." Hostage situation where they needed the height of the neighbor's houses to set up overwatch? Multi-level target house? I simply don't know and am very curious about this case as well.
        Originally posted by bwiese
        [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
        Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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        • #5
          bohoki
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 20825

          man now i got to rig up peppergas foggers in the house along with a front door cage that cannot be opened till the front door is closed

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          • #6
            Heiko
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 1025

            Originally posted by bohoki
            man now i got to rig up peppergas foggers in the house along with a front door cage that cannot be opened till the front door is closed
            If you have ever locked your keys in your car or accidentally set off your home alarm system and a similar mistake with those things would be hilarious!

            I agree with others that there has got to be more to this than what the plaintiffs have put out.

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            • #7
              SVT-40
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2008
              • 12906

              Dupe


              I think a few members have been banned due to very flagrant rule violations related to the earlier thread....So play nice...
              Poke'm with a stick!


              Originally posted by fiddletown
              What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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              • #8
                CBR_rider
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 2717

                Originally posted by SVT-40
                Dupe


                I think a few members have been banned due to very flagrant rule violations related to the earlier thread....So play nice...
                Maybe... But it lacks the sauciness of the other thread. I think I like this one better so far (well, once we have more to talk about re: this case).
                Originally posted by bwiese
                [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
                Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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                • #9
                  Ron-Solo
                  In Memoriam
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 8581

                  At least 5 threads on this have been deleted, because they devolve rapidly.

                  The entire thing is based on the "Pleading Paper" which does not have to have factual information in it, only an allegation.

                  The "Daily Caller" is really a blog that has the credibility of the Natiinal Enquirer.

                  Since LE do not qualify as "soldiers" expect a summary judgement or dismissal with prejudice on a 3rd Amendment argument.
                  Last edited by Ron-Solo; 07-06-2013, 10:32 PM.
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                  • #10
                    P5Ret
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 6382

                    Ok I'm a bit fuzzy after reading the "article" was it a DV investigation, or a barricaded suspect with hostages after a DV incident? Since the "article" seems to suggest both, depending upon who the police were dealing with. I guess they couldn't get a picture of an actual Henderson NV. patrol vehicle, I guess that just shows the credibility of the publication.

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                    • #11
                      J-cat
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2005
                      • 6626

                      The reason I asked the question is because I'd like to know under what circumstances is the Police allowed to evacuate a private residence and arrest the occupants for failing to obey the evacuation order. I don't care what the allegation says or what really happened. It doesn't matter.

                      We have fires and earthquakes and a-holes living amongst us who do stupid things. But my house is my house, and if I wanna die in it, that's my prerogative.

                      I suppose it would be different if minors were involved cuz that could turn into a child endangerment issue.

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                      • #12
                        Ron-Solo
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 8581

                        Each circumstance is different, and is weighed on its own merits, so no one here can give you a definitive answer.
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                        • #13
                          J-cat
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2005
                          • 6626

                          Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                          Each circumstance is different, and is weighed on its own merits, so no one here can give you a definitive answer.
                          Can you give us an example, then, using that scenario:

                          Say my neighbor gets in a shootout with the cops and runs inside his house, refusing to come out. Can I be forced to leave my residence?

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                          • #14
                            skyscraper
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 5198

                            Originally posted by J-cat
                            The reason I asked the question is because I'd like to know under what circumstances is the Police allowed to evacuate a private residence and arrest the occupants for failing to obey the evacuation order. I don't care what the allegation says or what really happened. It doesn't matter.

                            We have fires and earthquakes and a-holes living amongst us who do stupid things. But my house is my house, and if I wanna die in it, that's my prerogative.

                            I suppose it would be different if minors were involved cuz that could turn into a child endangerment issue.
                            Is there really any point in discussing this if it hasn't even been proven true? There have been bannings that occurred because some members took this article to be true and got into a pissing match. Just an FYI

                            Why not just pose your actual question instead of linking something without credibility?
                            Last edited by skyscraper; 07-07-2013, 2:11 PM.

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                            • #15
                              J-cat
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2005
                              • 6626

                              And what has credibility? Name a source with credibility? Credibility is a scarce thing these days. I have a question and everyone is doing their best not to answer it.

                              If you don't know, just say it or don't interject.

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