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  • #31
    explorerdude
    Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 394

    Originally posted by red2sniper
    Live, eat, sleep, breathe the academy. Know everything they gave you to know ahead of time, do nothing but concentrate on the academy, as this is your life until you graduate. When you graduate, DO NOT go out and buy a high dollar car, wait to buy it for yourself for a end of probation gift, otherwise if you didn't make it for some reason you won't have a huge car payment.....YES SIR, NO SIR, never ya or nah. Focus, Never Ever give up or Quit!
    Copy that, thank you!

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    • #32
      retired
      Administrator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Sep 2007
      • 9409

      First, congratulations and good luck in the academy! You have received some excellent advice from the retired and active leos here, take it to heart.

      As another older (1976 and during the hot summer) retired leo, I'd like to offer a little advice also. One of the things cadets will do prior to lining up in formation in the morning is ensuring they and their fellow platoon members do not have "ropes" hanging from their uniforms. This was the name for the lint that attaches itself to your shirt and pants. The DIs would jump all over any cadet they found with ropes hanging.

      We would roll a piece of masking tape around our hand and use it to remove the lint. We would do the rear of the uniforms of our fellow cadets. It's all about teamwork. Now that we know you will be wearing the blue of LAPD, I wish you extra good luck as the DIs will be able to see every tiny piece of rope on your uniform unless it is dark blue. We had participating agency cadets in our class who wore blue and they would work extra frantically to remove every one. Wearing tan and green sometimes allowed us to get lucky as some of the tiniest ropes blended in and were never seen by a DI.

      Last thing: If you have any female DIs, make sure you don't say, "Yes sir" or "No sir" to them. They do not find it funny. We had one female DI, who was not in charge of our platoon and the cadet I lined up behind prior to entering the class, would do that when she asked him a question (which she did often and intentionally). All of us within earshot would do our best not to laugh so we wouldn't be in trouble, but I have to admit it was hilarious!

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      • #33
        shojivic
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2012
        • 767

        Most importantly, remain humble. The cocky, arrogant types get identified quickly; don't be one. Don't confuse confidence with arrogance. Learn fast, and don't make the same mistake twice. Oh, and always be early. The late ones always get chewed out..!

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        • #34
          HP911
          Member
          • May 2013
          • 159

          Originally posted by retired
          First, congratulations and good luck in the academy! You have received some excellent advice from the retired and active leos here, take it to heart.

          As another older (1976 and during the hot summer) retired leo, I'd like to offer a little advice also. One of the things cadets will do prior to lining up in formation in the morning is ensuring they and their fellow platoon members do not have "ropes" hanging from their uniforms. This was the name for the lint that attaches itself to your shirt and pants. The DIs would jump all over any cadet they found with ropes hanging.

          We would roll a piece of masking tape around our hand and use it to remove the lint. We would do the rear of the uniforms of our fellow cadets. It's all about teamwork. Now that we know you will be wearing the blue of LAPD, I wish you extra good luck as the DIs will be able to see every tiny piece of rope on your uniform unless it is dark blue. We had participating agency cadets in our class who wore blue and they would work extra frantically to remove every one. Wearing tan and green sometimes allowed us to get lucky as some of the tiniest ropes blended in and were never seen by a DI.

          Last thing: If you have any female DIs, make sure you don't say, "Yes sir" or "No sir" to them. They do not find it funny. We had one female DI, who was not in charge of our platoon and the cadet I lined up behind prior to entering the class, would do that when she asked him a question (which she did often and intentionally). All of us within earshot would do our best not to laugh so we wouldn't be in trouble, but I have to admit it was hilarious!
          Lint Rollers and nail clippers/lighters are your friend. I preferred using a lighter to burn off any loose strands hanging off of my uniform.

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          • #35
            code_blue
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 3452

            Originally posted by explorerdude
            It is the LAPD academy.
            Well, LAPD is definitely a different academy than others. One of the highest funded ones in the nation. Their academy looks like something out of Laguna Beach.

            It is not "There is A way" it is "There is OUR way". Remember this.

            LAPD does not accept lateral transfers from other agencies. They do not wear patches on their uniform. Their reason? "Because we're the LAPD". Even the cadets say this.

            There is a particular choking method that only LAPD utilizes and their style of training is a bit more hardcore compared to others.

            As to pride, their probably on par with CHP. Whether the pride leads to arrogance is up to the individual.
            Classifieds:

            Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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            • #36
              Samuelx
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 1558

              Originally posted by explorerdude
              It is the LAPD academy.
              Best of Luck! Please give my regards and respects to "P12"...

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              • #37
                justjeff
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 1301

                Awesome!!
                Originally posted by LBDamned
                Serious people make real change in their lives... Others complain on forums.

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                • #38
                  Samuelx
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1558

                  Originally posted by anbu_yoshi
                  There is a particular choking method that only LAPD utilizes and their style of training is a bit more hardcore compared to others.
                  Could you elaborate on both these points, especially the "choking method"?

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                  • #39
                    code_blue
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 3452

                    Originally posted by Samuelx
                    Could you elaborate on both these points, especially the "choking method"?
                    Standard POST teaches the basic carotid hold from behind that does not attack the windpipe.

                    LAPD utilizes a particular choke in addition to the carotid choke. I believe it is called the bar choke which does attack the windpipe. It has been limited, but as far as I've determined, it is still in use.

                    I have been told by certain local officers who have ties with LAPD that there is even an additional technique. One that utilizes the hand shaped in a "C" and IIRC is utilized in front of the target. It appears similar to "ripping" someones throat out.
                    Classifieds:

                    Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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                    • #40
                      BoJackUSMC
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 7091

                      Yes, I would also like to learn more about this hardcore "choking method"?

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                      • #41
                        CaptMike
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 1272

                        Wow....I have to just shake my head sometimes....
                        A life is not important, except for the impact it has on other lives- Jackie Robinson

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                        • #42
                          Samuelx
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1558

                          Originally posted by anbu_yoshi
                          Standard POST teaches the basic carotid hold from behind that does not attack the windpipe.

                          LAPD utilizes a particular choke in addition to the carotid choke. I believe it is called the bar choke which does attack the windpipe. It has been limited, but as far as I've determined, it is still in use.

                          I have been told by certain local officers who have ties with LAPD that there is even an additional technique. One that utilizes the hand shaped in a "C" and IIRC is utilized in front of the target. It appears similar to "ripping" someones throat out.
                          Ok, let's say for a micro split second that what you wrote above is true - what makes you so sure that no one else in LE has ever been taught these techniques or that no one else in LE would be allowed to use these techniques???

                          Btw, do you know under which circumstances/conditions LAPD officers could use 1. a carotid restraint/LVNR/BLNR, 2. a bar arm choke, or 3. a throat rip/trachea re-adjustment technique?
                          Last edited by Samuelx; 06-16-2013, 3:37 PM.

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                          • #43
                            code_blue
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 3452

                            No clue what is in their written vs verbal circumstances. They are all considered as non lethal tactics, although it has been argued.

                            I am not sure that anyone else has applied it. It's not hard and is a commonly known technique. LAPD just happens to be notorious for it.

                            I do know that current training techniques were updated to defend against MMA style combat situations. This is apparently across the board.
                            Classifieds:

                            Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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                            • #44
                              Samuelx
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 1558

                              nvrmnd
                              Last edited by Samuelx; 06-16-2013, 6:05 PM.

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                              • #45
                                code_blue
                                Veteran Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 3452

                                Good luck to you in the academy. It will be a hard, but worthwhile process.

                                LE = Fraternity. There is definitely a "You're one of us" mentality, however it should never stop you from doing what is right.

                                LAPD armory = $300 price range Glocks for LAPD LEOs. I do not know if they sell to sister agencies for that price. There's a fancy Officers' mess there also.
                                Classifieds:

                                Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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