Retired Out of State LEO question?

[SVT-40]

Yeah, but they don't issue a LEOSA qualification card for that. Otherwise I wouldn't have to drive to East LA once a year to qual. They only do it on Thursday's at 11:00 am and space is limited.

I just take the "blue" qualification score card to my dept, and they isue the LEOSA ID.

[Tripper]

I've always thought quash to be a funny word, I love using it.

[CBR_rider]

I have not heard of anyone doing mag counts.

I agree... I have yet to count the rounds in anyone's magazines who was lawfully concealing a handgun.

[solanoshooter]

I poised the same question to the LDF Attorney and here's a synopsis of his response and legal analysis.

If you are in full compliance with LEOSA, (qualed, not drinking etc) you are deriving your conceal carry authority under FEDERAL Law and the Federal Supremacy Doctrine trumps State Law.

If by chance, a State/Local Officer PC arrests you for a LEOSA related CCW violation, invoke and contact the LDF Attorney. He would then seek quashing the State case and file a Writ to transfer the case to the jurisdiction of the nearest Federal Magistrate and have the State case dismissed.

He also stated that he would vigorously pursue a claim of Federal Civil Rights violation(s) for the illegal State arrest as the LEOSA carry authority is a federally derived right. He stated that there are a few cases already adjudicated in favor of the Officer(s).

Btw; The way CALDOJ is running amok nothing will surprise me.

Be safe.

It's my understanding that LDF doesn't cover off duty incidents.

[SVT-40]

It's my understanding that LDF doesn't cover off duty incidents.

Wrong, LDF absolutely does cover you, as long as the behavior is somehow related to your status as a LEO.

[solanoshooter]

Wrong, LDF absolutely does cover you, as long as the behavior is somehow related to your status as a LEO.

I looked it up since I should know it and I vaguely remember our ldf attorney saying we might not be covered off-duty at a general meeting a couple years ago. For plan one it's administrative, civil, and criminal coverage "within the scope of employment." Administrative is covered for non-scope.

Granted, this is LDF coverage in CA. AZ may be different.

http://porac.org/legal-defense-fund/files/Plan-Documents-California.pdf

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