LEO experience I had awhile back.

[penguinofsleep]

they didnt fire up their sirens or anything though. and my windows were down, i didn't hear anything on their radios (although maybe i missed it).

and yzernie, yes its a hard thing to answer, but i was thinking along someone knows some random procedural thing or w/e off the top of their head before i just dismissed it as 2 bad cops.

[XDshooter]

XD, you still have not answered my question.

After someone who is traveling at the speed limit in the fast lane yields, where in the law do you find the authority to then exceed the maximum POSTED speed limit?

There is no law, but that has nothing to do with it.
If a person is jaywalking another person can not impede them doing so that would be breaking the law.

[XDshooter]

Yes it is. Freeway speed limits are NOT prima facie speed limits.

Please cite law that says so?

[Notorious]

There is no law, but that has nothing to do with it.
If a person is jaywalking another person can not impede them doing so that would be breaking the law.

What law is violated by me standing there and causing you to have to walk around me on a public street?

In any event, you are missing the point of the question.

How are you legally impeded (not factually), if you cannot legally go faster than me on the freeway? How would you testify to that fact? I was gonna break the speed limit but he impeded me....

[IrishJoe3]

Please cite law that says so?

Gladly. See below.

I really can't expect you, a layperson, to understand the VC and its application inside and out. However, even you should understand the difference between a Freeway, and Highway.

21654 VC. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal

Your section specifially applies to highways. A freeway is not a highway.


Prima Facia speed limits. Read 22348 VC through 22366 VC

Understand you have two types of speed limits, Prima Facie and maximum. Refer to 22349 VC (which if you read it you will note it applies to freeways). And Prima Facie speed limits, refer to 22352 VC.

Prima Facie Speed Limits

22352 VC. (a) The prima facie limits are as follows and shall be applicable unless changed as authorized in this code and, if so changed, only when signs have been erected giving notice thereof:


(1) Fifteen miles per hour:

(A) When traversing a railway grade crossing, if during the last 100 feet of the approach to the crossing the driver does not have a clear and unobstructed view of the crossing and of any traffic on the railway for a distance of 400 feet in both directions along the railway. This subdivision does not apply in the case of any railway grade crossing where a human flagman is on duty or a clearly visible electrical or mechanical railway crossing signal device is installed but does not then indicate the immediate approach of a railway train or car.

(B) When traversing any intersection of highways if during the last 100 feet of the driver's approach to the intersection the driver does not have a clear and unobstructed view of the intersection and of any traffic upon all of the highways entering the intersection for a distance of 100 feet along all those highways, except at an intersection protected by stop signs or yield right-of-way signs or controlled by official traffic control signals.

(C) On any alley.

(2) Twenty-five miles per hour:

(A) On any highway other than a state highway, in any business or residence district unless a different speed is determined by local authority under procedures set forth in this code.

(B) When approaching or passing a school building or the grounds thereof, contiguous to a highway and posted with a standard "SCHOOL" warning sign, while children are going to or leaving the school either during school hours or during the noon recess period. The prima facie limit shall also apply when approaching or passing any school grounds which are not separated from the highway by a fence, gate, or other physical barrier while the grounds are in use by children and the highway is posted with a standard "SCHOOL" warning sign. For purposes of this subparagraph, standard "SCHOOL" warning signs may be placed at any distance up to 500 feet away from school grounds.

(C) When passing a senior center or other facility primarily used by senior citizens, contiguous to a street other than a state highway and posted with a standard "SENIOR" warning sign. A local authority is not required to erect any sign pursuant to this paragraph until donations from private sources covering those costs are received and the local agency makes a determination that the proposed signing should be implemented. A local authority may, however, utilize any other funds available to it to pay for the erection of those signs.

(b) This section shall become operative on March 1, 2001.

[A-J]

I really can't expect you, a layperson, to understand the VC and its application inside and out. However, even you should understand the difference between a Freeway, and Highway.

Your section specifially applies to highways. A freeway is not a highway.

I believe that the VC has a definition somewhere within it clarifying that use of the word "Highway" is meant to include any paved road open to the public (or something to that effect).

[Coded-Dude]

http://www.cahighways.org/stypes.html

All freeways are highways but not every highway is a freeway. A freeway is a "controlled-access" highway that's designed exclusively for high-speed vehicular traffic.

[Dutch3]

What do all you left-lane junkies do when you are on a 2-lane road and the vehicle in front of you is doing the speed limit?

Say the road is posted 55MPH and the car in front of you is doing 55-60, but you feel like driving 65-70. Is the other driver "impeding" you? Do you still insist they should move to the right lane? (Hint: there isn't one)

Do you back off and wait for a safe opportunity to pass, or do you ride their bumper with veins popping out on your forehead due to somebody infringing on your God-given right to break the law?

Just curious.

[Aces and 8s]

Man oh man. XDshooter, regardless of what your opinion is (which you're entitled to), the maximum posted limit, is the limit. Anything above is breaking the law. Sure, everyone does it, who really goes 65mph besides grandma? But still, I feel no obligation to move over because you or anyone else wants to go 15mph + over the limit when I am already going over the speed limit as it is. Your train of thought law is trumped by actual law. Sorry.

One thing that does bug me, and is against the law, is the nice people doing 55-60mph in a 65mph zone, or anyone doing 5-10mph under the posted limit when there is no need for them to do so.

[john67elco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPv7Qdt0zWY

[tonyxcom]

Sorry to get the MOVE RIGHT LAW people butthurt but their is not such law in California. While it is common courtesy to get your slow moving vehicle out of the way, you don't have too. Just like LEGALLY, you can pass on the right lane. No law against it. In fact, if you are one of those slow people in the fast lane, disrupting traffic, even if said traffic was going over the speed limit, you are the one breaking the law. You are not allowed to impede the flow of traffic.

Can someone confirm this? I'll have to check with my buddy to see if he fought the ticket, but I know for a fact that he was pulled over by CHP and given a ticket for passing on the right.

The officer told him it was a "nice pass" but was illegal because it was on the right.

[Notorious]

Passing people on the right is illegal if it is on the shoulder....

[friedokra]

they didnt fire up their sirens or anything though. and my windows were down, i didn't hear anything on their radios (although maybe i missed it).

and yzernie, yes its a hard thing to answer, but i was thinking along someone knows some random procedural thing or w/e off the top of their head before i just dismissed it as 2 bad cops.

The fact that both of them drove off with some sense of urgency would probably lead me to believe they were dispatched to a call of some sort. If you didn't hear their radios, they might have earbuds for their radios, or the call came over their computer/MDT.

[thatrogue]

This state really needs to get serious about licensing motorists.

It's people like the OP that cause congestion out on the road.

MOVE RIGHT, it's the LAW in this state and even if it wasn't, it's the right thing to do.

I wish more people got tickets for driving in the fast lane and not passing. It would make the roadway a hell of a lot safer.