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07-22-2012, 5:49 PM
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Alcohol/carrying off duty

If an Officer uses his personal weapon off duty for self defense and is drinking what would he be charged with ?
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07-22-2012, 5:52 PM
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Nothing, unless he or she committed a crime while defending him or herself. If the use was "reasonable" why would you believe a officer would be charged? Same with a non officer who reasonably used a firearm to defend themselves.

Now civilly he or she would be attacked, dependent upon the level of alcohol in his or her system.

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07-22-2012, 6:16 PM
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Liquored up and packin heat?....... Sounds to me like days on the beach at min.
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07-22-2012, 6:20 PM
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[QUOTE=SVT-40;8980392If the use was "reasonable" why would believe a officer would be charged. Same with a non officer who reasonably used a firearm to defend themselves.[/QUOTE]

I thought there was some type of law that forbid carrying when drinking. Thanks.
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07-22-2012, 6:58 PM
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No laws, but department policies vary greatly.

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07-22-2012, 7:06 PM
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Originally posted by Ron-Solo

Everything hinges on if it was a good shoot or not.

^^^ This ^^^

If the shoot is good then the involved officer having had a beer on the way home from work isn't really going to matter. It's a good shoot.

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07-22-2012, 7:50 PM
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Our policy is no drinking on duty unless its part of your assignment, vice, UC, etc.. We have no policy on being armed while off duty and consuming. A beer or two with dinner? I don't see an issue. Getting crazy at a kegger? You may be looking at trouble if you make a mistake.
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07-22-2012, 8:00 PM
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I believe in staying 100% sober if I am carrying a firearm. I don't want my judgement or coordination to be compromised if I am faced with a potential shooting situation.

If I'm going to drink, weapon and creds stay at home.
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07-22-2012, 8:22 PM
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Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano

I believe in staying 100% sober if I am carrying a firearm. I don't want my judgement or coordination to be compromised if I am faced with a potential shooting situation.

If I'm going to drink, weapon and creds stay at home.

Which is way I'm always sober

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07-22-2012, 9:39 PM
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Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano

I believe in staying 100% sober if I am carrying a firearm. I don't want my judgement or coordination to be compromised if I am faced with a potential shooting situation.

If I'm going to drink, weapon and creds stay at home.

I agree..
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07-22-2012, 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano

I believe in staying 100% sober if I am carrying a firearm. I don't want my judgement or coordination to be compromised if I am faced with a potential shooting situation.

If I'm going to drink, weapon and creds stay at home.

Me too!

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07-23-2012, 7:29 AM
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Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano

I believe in staying 100% sober if I am carrying a firearm. I don't want my judgement or coordination to be compromised if I am faced with a potential shooting situation.

If I'm going to drink, weapon and creds stay at home.

That is a personal choice, and a wise one, but law does not require it in CA, and department policies vary, with the ones I have seen being non-existent.

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07-23-2012, 8:16 AM
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Most policies cover this no adays

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07-23-2012, 9:32 AM
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iCarry 24/7...so if I am out, I don't drink.

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07-23-2012, 9:47 AM
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Originally posted by Notorious

That is a personal choice, and a wise one, but law does not require it in CA, and department policies vary, with the ones I have seen being non-existent.

Most agencies will boot you quick nowadays if you are caught off duty, armed, and drinking.
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