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  • #31
    rromeo
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2009
    • 6981

    Actually, that's not what I mean.
    (27) the sale of, giving of, lending of, importation into this state of, or purchase of, any large capacity magazine TO OR BY entities that operate armored car businesses pursuant to the laws of this state.
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    • #32
      Notorious
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 4697

      Originally posted by rromeo
      Actually, that's not what I mean.
      (27) the sale of, giving of, lending of, importation into this state of, or purchase of, any large capacity magazine TO OR BY entities that operate armored car businesses pursuant to the laws of this state.
      I understand that, but I am trying to keep it to where the OP, as an individual, is the main concern, not if the OP may or may not be an armored car business owner and got the mags for his business. I am saying trying to figure it on an individual basis.
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      • #33
        Ron-Solo
        In Memoriam
        • Jan 2009
        • 8581

        Originally posted by rromeo
        They can legally be sold from an armored car company.
        Armored car companies are allowed to buy them. The exemption does not say the armored car company can sell them


        Originally posted by ke6guj
        the exemption is not limited to purchases by armored car guards..

        32435. Section 32310 does not apply to any of the following:
        (a) The sale of, giving of, lending of, importation into this
        state of, or purchase of, any large-capacity magazine, to or by any
        entity that operates an armored vehicle business
        pursuant to the laws
        of this state.
        Where does this say the armored car company can sell?
        Last edited by Ron-Solo; 06-12-2012, 10:23 PM.
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        • #34
          Mssr. Eleganté
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          • Oct 2005
          • 10401

          Originally posted by Ron-Solo
          ...Where does this say the armored car company can sell?
          If you read just the bolded parts you will see how it says armored car companies can sell.

          The sale of any large-capacity magazine by any entity that operates an armored vehicle business pursuant to the laws of this state.
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          • #35
            Mike's Custom
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 872

            The BX 25s are illegal. They were made after the hi cap ban so there is no way you can have one assembled and be legal.
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            • #36
              shortyforty
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 639

              Sticky situation..

              Thank God the Chp officer didn't charge you with a crime. Not that I think you should have been charged, but you really lucked out...IMHO. Thankyou for your service to our great country and I hope your time here in California is filled with happy times and good memories.
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              • #37
                Ron-Solo
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                • Jan 2009
                • 8581

                Originally posted by Mike's Custom
                The BX 25s are illegal. They were made after the hi cap ban so there is no way you can have one assembled and be legal.


                Helllloooooo.........

                Have you been paying attention?

                You can rebuild legally owned hicap mags using parts from a BX-25, and you can eventually use all the parts from the new mag, as long as you don't end up with more completed mags than you started with.

                I bought numerous BX-25 magazines before I retired, and now I legally possess them.

                Your entire statement is 100% WRONG! For someone who claims to be a "Firearms Dealer" in your profile, you seem to be carrying on the tradition of gun store FUD.

                Can the average Joe Citizen walk into a California gun store and buy a completed BX-25? No.
                Can LE buy them? Yes.
                Can Joe Citizen buy a disassembled BX-25? Yes.
                Can Joe Citizen assemble said magazine except when rebuilding a lawfully possessed hicap mag? No
                Last edited by Ron-Solo; 06-13-2012, 1:17 AM.
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                • #38
                  Ron-Solo
                  In Memoriam
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 8581

                  If you read just the bolded parts you will see how it says armored car companies can sell.
                  Technically, you are right, but they can't sell them to individuals that are not exempt, which was my point. I probably could have worded it better.
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                  • #39
                    Notorious
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                    • Sep 2008
                    • 4697

                    Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                    Technically, you are right, but they can't sell them to individuals that are not exempt, which was my point. I probably could have worded it better.
                    Which is the main point... about the OP, as an individual, acquiring said magazines. Not about which mysterious seller or entity or unholy alliance could have sold it somewhere out there.
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                    • #40
                      bergmen
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 2493

                      Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                      Incorrect. You can use a BX-25 to rebuild your existing 25 round magazines, or as in my case, I bought a bunch before I retired from LE where I purchased them from a local store that specializes in LE sales. I spent $300+ on magazines the morning I had to turn in my active LE credentials for my retired credentials.

                      Maybe you should spend some more time reading this forum before spouting off incorrect information.
                      Okay, let me be more specific:

                      LEO's are in a different class and it should be obvious that there are exemptions that are not being discussed here.

                      Maybe you should spend more time reading this forum to understand that the discussion has centered around the legal posession of BX-25 magazines, in California by the general shooting public, NOT LEO's.

                      It is illegal for non-LEO's (or specially licensed FFL's) to possess BX-25 magazines in California PERIOD. They were introduced after the 1-1-2000 legislation which means that possession involved an illegal transfer of ownership in some manner form, illegal importation from out of state or illegal manufacture by assembling parts from a kit.

                      Is that clear now?

                      Dan
                      Last edited by bergmen; 06-13-2012, 10:27 AM.

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                      • #41
                        Baconator
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                        • Jan 2009
                        • 9547

                        Originally posted by bergmen
                        Okay, let me be more specific:

                        LEO's are in a different class and it should be obvious that there are exemptions that are not being discussed here.

                        Maybe you should spend more time reading this forum to understand that the discussion has centered around the legal posession of BX-25 magazines, in California by the general shooting public, NOT LEO's.

                        It is illegal for non-LEO's (or specially licensed FFL's) to possess BX-25 magazines in California PERIOD. They were introduced after the 1-1-2000 legislation which means that possession involved an illegal transfer of ownership in some manner form, illegal importation from out of state or illegal manufacture by assembling parts from a kit.

                        Is that clear now?

                        Dan
                        Except that you are wrong. If you owned high capacity magazines prior to the ban, you can repair/replace those magazines. You can take old 10+ round magazines and repair/replace them with new mags. Pmags are a perfect example of this, you can replace your old damaged or worn out usgi ar15 magazines with brand new pmags and add long as you don't end up with more magazines then you started with then you are not manufacturing.

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                        • #42
                          bergmen
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 2493

                          Originally posted by Baconator
                          Except that you are wrong. If you owned high capacity magazines prior to the ban, you can repair/replace those magazines. You can take old 10+ round magazines and repair/replace them with new mags. Pmags are a perfect example of this, you can replace your old damaged or worn out usgi ar15 magazines with brand new pmags and add long as you don't end up with more magazines then you started with then you are not manufacturing.
                          Good lord. How can you possibly repair a BX-25 when they were not even made before the ban?

                          You can repair legally owned hi-cap mags that were possessed BEFORE THE BAN. BX-25's were not in existance before the ban.

                          Read this:



                          Second sentence in point #4.

                          Dan

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                          • #43
                            Ron-Solo
                            In Memoriam
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 8581

                            Originally posted by bergmen
                            Okay, let me be more specific:

                            LEO's are in a different class and it should be obvious that there are exemptions that are not being discussed here.

                            Maybe you should spend more time reading this forum to understand that the discussion has centered around the legal posession of BX-25 magazines, in California by the general shooting public, NOT LEO's.

                            It is illegal for non-LEO's (or specially licensed FFL's) to possess BX-25 magazines in California PERIOD. They were introduced after the 1-1-2000 legislation which means that possession involved an illegal transfer of ownership in some manner form, illegal importation from out of state or illegal manufacture by assembling parts from a kit.

                            Is that clear now?

                            Dan
                            Okay, let me be more specific.

                            YOU ARE WRONG!

                            Is THAT clear enough for you?


                            You have a post count of four, and both of them in this forum are WRONG.

                            Nonsense like his gives me a Popsicle headache!




                            Originally posted by bergmen
                            Good lord. How can you possibly repair a BX-25 when they were not even made before the ban?

                            You can repair legally owned hi-cap mags that were possessed BEFORE THE BAN. BX-25's were not in existance before the ban.

                            Read this:



                            Second sentence in point #4.

                            Dan
                            Are you really that dense? You don't get it. Maybe you should rethink posting in the LE forum when you can't seem to get your facts straight.
                            Last edited by Ron-Solo; 06-13-2012, 3:57 PM.
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                            • #44
                              Baconator
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                              • Jan 2009
                              • 9547

                              Originally posted by bergmen
                              Good lord. How can you possibly repair a BX-25 when they were not even made before the ban?

                              You can repair legally owned hi-cap mags that were possessed BEFORE THE BAN. BX-25's were not in existance before the ban.

                              Read this:



                              Second sentence in point #4.

                              Dan
                              Did they make large capacity magazines for 10/22s before the ban? If they did you can replace the ones that legally obtained with new ones when your old ones have worn out. This isn't even a "I found them"stretch, this is normal course of magazine life that you are misinformed about. You don't have to only repair/replace the magazine with the exact same magazine. If you can show me the PC that says this then I will be wrong.

                              Maybe try reading the thread you posted



                              Post 11
                              Quote:
                              Originally Posted by Afterburnt
                              "5. Yes, you can buy part kits to repair your existing magazines - but you cannot assemble them into complete "large-capacity magazines" inside CA - that would be manufacturing and that can be charged as a felony."

                              I think this point needs further clarification. How far does "repair" go? If you eventually replace all of the parts and in effect have a new magazine is this ok?
                              Read the long thread, linked in the first post in this one.

                              Short answer: yes

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                              Last edited by Baconator; 06-13-2012, 2:29 PM.

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                              • #45
                                RJohnson
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 46

                                This post reminded me to pick up more hi cap mags on the way home last night. Thx

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