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  • #16
    Jicko
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2005
    • 8774

    Originally posted by bohoki
    confused you should be i was unaware of any law against "transporting hi-caps" unless its into california
    re-read csc's posting.... the OP admitted it himself to the CHP....
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    • #17
      CalCop
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 573

      Originally posted by Notorious
      If you have guns bouncing around in the bed of your truck, it's plain view as to the gun cases but he can't open them and search for magazines without your consent unless you make statements otherwise.
      Agreed. Just because you see gun cases in the bed of the truck does not mean there is reasonable suspicion of a crime. I hate it when some cops assume when gun cases are involved there must obviously be a crime in one of them....or they think they are allowed to open the cases to find out. Now, if there is a silencer on the back seat, okay, search the cases. But, if all they were doing is speeding....you do NOT have RS or PC of anything gun-related and you shouldn't be searching the cases.
      "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen."
      -- Sir Robert Peel

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      • #18
        MistDaemon
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 46

        What about:

        CALIFORNIA CODES
        PENAL CODE
        SECTION 25850

        25850. (a) A person is guilty of carrying a loaded firearm when the
        person carries a loaded firearm on the person or in a vehicle while
        in any public place or on any public street in an incorporated city
        or in any public place or on any public street in a prohibited area
        of unincorporated territory.
        (b) In order to determine whether or not a firearm is loaded for
        the purpose of enforcing this section, peace officers are authorized
        to examine any firearm carried by anyone on the person or in a
        vehicle while in any public place or on any public street in an
        incorporated city or prohibited area of an unincorporated territory.
        Refusal to allow a peace officer to inspect a firearm pursuant to
        this section constitutes probable cause for arrest for violation of
        this section.

        ...
        If the LEO knows you have a firearm, the firearms can be checked.

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        • #19
          CalCop
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 573

          Originally posted by MistDaemon
          What about:
          If the LEO knows you have a firearm, the firearms can be checked.
          Possession of gun case does not equal possession of firearm.
          "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen."
          -- Sir Robert Peel

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          • #20
            CalCop
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 573

            Originally posted by doc8404
            So my question is am i allowed to transport my firearms with no amunition in the gun or magazines but have my 25 round mags for the 10/22 in the gun box i transport my firearms in?
            Yes, if you don't admit importation.
            "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen."
            -- Sir Robert Peel

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            • #21
              Sunday
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2010
              • 5574

              Guns bad ,large cap mags worst!
              California's politicians and unionized government employees are a crime gang that makes the Mexican drug cartels look like a Girl Scout Troop in comparison.

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              • #22
                arsilva32
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 863

                sounds like to me you got extremely lucky it was that particular chipy that pulled you over.he sounds like a very cool cop that gave you a huge break.
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                More armed citizens = Quicker response times, less victims.
                Less armed citizens = more victims


                Guns should only be surrendered one bullet at a time.

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                • #23
                  Notorious
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 4695

                  Originally posted by CalCop
                  Possession of gun case does not equal possession of firearm.
                  Especially if you use the covert cases or other non-gun case looking containers, there is no PC, period.
                  I like guns

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                  • #24
                    bergmen
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 2492

                    Originally posted by CalCop
                    The only error was admitting importation. Possession is not illegal.
                    The ONLY way you can have a BX-25 in California is by importing them. They were not made before 1-1-2000 when you would have had to be in possession prior in order to have legal possession today.

                    Dan

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                    • #25
                      Ron-Solo
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 8581

                      Originally posted by bergmen
                      The ONLY way you can have a BX-25 in California is by importing them. They were not made before 1-1-2000 when you would have had to be in possession prior in order to have legal possession today.

                      Dan
                      Incorrect. You can use a BX-25 to rebuild your existing 25 round magazines, or as in my case, I bought a bunch before I retired from LE where I purchased them from a local store that specializes in LE sales. I spent $300+ on magazines the morning I had to turn in my active LE credentials for my retired credentials.

                      Maybe you should spend some more time reading this forum before spouting off incorrect information.
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                      1978-2011

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                      • #26
                        CalCop
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 573

                        Originally posted by bergmen
                        The ONLY way you can have a BX-25 in California is by importing them. They were not made before 1-1-2000 when you would have had to be in possession prior in order to have legal possession today.
                        Possessing them does not mean YOU imported them. And neither receiving, nor finding, nor possession of the mag is illegal.
                        "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen."
                        -- Sir Robert Peel

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                        • #27
                          rromeo
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 6981

                          They can legally be sold from an armored car company.
                          Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

                          - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
                          (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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                          • #28
                            Notorious
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 4695

                            Originally posted by rromeo
                            They can legally be sold from an armored car company.
                            You mean, you can legally buy them if you are a properly licensed armor car guard. That is listed in the penal code as an authorized purchaser.
                            I like guns

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                            • #29
                              ke6guj
                              Moderator
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 23725

                              Originally posted by Notorious
                              You mean, you can legally buy them if you are a properly licensed armor car guard. That is listed in the penal code as an authorized purchaser.
                              the exemption is not limited to purchases by armored car guards.


                              32435. Section 32310 does not apply to any of the following:
                              (a) The sale of, giving of, lending of, importation into this
                              state of, or purchase of, any large-capacity magazine, to or by any
                              entity that operates an armored vehicle business
                              pursuant to the laws
                              of this state.
                              Jack



                              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                              • #30
                                Notorious
                                Veteran Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 4695

                                Originally posted by ke6guj
                                the exemption is not limited to purchases by armored car guards.


                                32435. Section 32310 does not apply to any of the following:
                                (a) The sale of, giving of, lending of, importation into this
                                state of, or purchase of, any large-capacity magazine, to or by any
                                entity that operates an armored vehicle business
                                pursuant to the laws
                                of this state.
                                This was the sentence referenced by my post:

                                They can legally be sold from an armored car company.
                                Which, although true, is not relevant to the original situation where the OP admitted importing them, which then got into a question of how he came into possession of them via other legal means, which then would follow that the crux of it turns on the ACQUISITION by the OP, via legal means, rather than who sold it or how it was sold, which is irrelevant to the situation.

                                Which is why I concentrated on how the OP, as an individual, may legally purchase a regular capacity magazine in CA.
                                I like guns

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