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  • #16
    CalCop
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 573

    The only case to specifically address this issue took place in Illinois, just as gun-hating as CA. The judge said Peterson was exempt from both federal and state law which made the Colt Sporter SBR a felony to possess in Illinois. The judge said LEOSA exempted any qualified active officer from possession of any firearm other than a machine gun. The judge specifically said LEOSA exempts LEOs from any state law banning any rifle.

    I wouldn't say don't count on not getting arrested by an overzealous gun-hating LEO.....but plan on winning in court if you do.

    Consider the following:
    • Rep. Scott offered an amendment to limit the weapons an officer could carry in other States to exclude semiautomatic assault weapons. This amendment was defeated by a vote of 13 yeas to 19 nays. (H.R. Rep. No. 560, 108th Cong., 2nd Sess. 2004 pg. 64-67)
    • “If Congress enacts this legislation (LEOSA), police chiefs will be stripped of their authority to tell their own officers, for example, that they cannot bring guns into bars while off-duty; that they cannot carry…certain shotguns, rifles, or handguns….” (H.R. Rep. No. 560, 108th Cong., 2nd Sess. 2004 p. 85.)
    • CA DOJ says, “An active officer can qualify with a pistol and carry an assault weapon. Doing so may violate departmental policy, though. Technically, a retired officer may carry anything that he can lawfully possess that is of a type of firearm with which he can qualify.” http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/leosiss.pdf
    Last edited by CalCop; 05-03-2012, 5:51 PM.
    "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen."
    -- Sir Robert Peel

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    • #17
      hitman13
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 3793

      Originally posted by Ron-Solo
      I'm not 100% positive, but I think you run into issues with ATF if you cross a state line with NFA firearms unless you file certain paperwork with them.

      I'm retired, so I wouldn't give you any grief over one.

      I cant remember what the form is, but I have one approved and stuck in the pistol grip, along with a copy of the taxstamp....

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      • #18
        Ron-Solo
        In Memoriam
        • Jan 2009
        • 8581

        Originally posted by hitman13

        I cant remember what the form is, but I have one approved and stuck in the pistol grip, along with a copy of the taxstamp....
        I'm jealous. I have been doing a little research on it because I'm thinking about building an SBR at my Arizona location that I live at part of the year.

        The perils of having a stripped lower and not knowing what to do with it.

        Most LEOs would take one look at the ATF paperwork authorizing an NFA firearm and probably wouldn't even know that CA laws also require a CA Dangerous Weapons permit.

        Ca laws are that confusing.
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        • #19
          hitman13
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 3793

          Let me know of you need any help, I did the trust route by myself, real easy to do!

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          • #20
            Notorious
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 4695

            I need help with the trust route.
            I like guns

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            • #21
              fullrearview
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2008
              • 9371

              Sorry to bring back this old thread, but as I am doing more and more research into the 300 Blackout, I am thinking of building a pistol.

              Now with the Peterson case in mind as applied to rifles, what about AR pistols?
              "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest."~M.Twain~

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              • #22
                Notorious
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 4695

                Originally posted by fullrearview
                Sorry to bring back this old thread, but as I am doing more and more research into the 300 Blackout, I am thinking of building a pistol.

                Now with the Peterson case in mind as applied to rifles, what about AR pistols?
                Do you really want to be the test case?
                I like guns

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                • #23
                  CalCop
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 573

                  ALL FIREARMS other than machine guns are covered by LEOSA. However, the first CA test case could be expensive.
                  "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen."
                  -- Sir Robert Peel

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