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  • #46
    ap3572001
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2007
    • 6039

    GLock 22 GEN4

    PS. I would take G21 over STOCK 1911 anyday.

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    • #47
      ckim34
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 408

      Originally posted by tahoetarga
      Do you mean LC Action?
      Opps yes I do LOL

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      • #48
        bluesmoke9
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 815

        The Glock 21 is the way to go. And just a point if no one else made it, you don't get your POST certificate for passing the academy. You get it for passing the academy, a Department's training program and working X number of hours as a police officer. Then you get your POST certificate.
        If you buy anything because it has "tactical" or "operator" in the name, we probably don't run in the same circles.

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        • #49
          tahoetarga
          Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 269

          Originally posted by bluesmoke9
          The Glock 21 is the way to go. And just a point if no one else made it, you don't get your POST certificate for passing the academy. You get it for passing the academy, a Department's training program and working X number of hours as a police officer. Then you get your POST certificate.
          Well, you're talking about two different things..graduate from a POST academy: POST academy certificate. Complete a year as a full time officer: POST Basic certificate.

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          • #50
            ean909
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 57

            Ckim. do they have a web site. i have so much trouble finding holsters. its horrible. I either have a crazy long special order date or they just dont carry any.
            Plato: to do injustice is more disgraceful than to suffer it.

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            • #51
              ean909
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 57

              Thanks for the input ap. Honestly I see most officers carring glocks so it would legitamate to think that most officers would suggest a glock. I just took the 21 out today and I think I might just go with it. The 21 ran really nice. I had a blast. The kids did too, they came with.
              Last edited by ean909; 04-01-2012, 10:12 PM. Reason: wrong person
              Plato: to do injustice is more disgraceful than to suffer it.

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              • #52
                ean909
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 57

                Bluesmoke. From what i have heard your suppose to receive a POST certificate after completion. Basic or not its suppose to help you in obtaining employment, and for me thats my main goal. So if something can help my chances, I'm doing it. No disrespect of course. But I have also heard something about differant levels of officers. But I don't really know too much about that. I guess its just learn as you go for me.
                Plato: to do injustice is more disgraceful than to suffer it.

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                • #53
                  oddjob
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2397

                  Took my son about 6 months to get a job after he put himself through an academy. it does help.....and good luck! Just use a handgun that will get you through the academy. I still maintain the Glock 17 is the most economical one to use.
                  Last edited by oddjob; 04-01-2012, 10:18 PM.

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                  • #54
                    ckim34
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 408

                    Originally posted by ean909
                    Ckim. do they have a web site. i have so much trouble finding holsters. its horrible. I either have a crazy long special order date or they just dont carry any.


                    Law enforcement police supply shop in bay area california selling guns and other firearm accessories

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                    • #55
                      ean909
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 57

                      Sweet. Thanks.
                      Plato: to do injustice is more disgraceful than to suffer it.

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                      • #56
                        Roddd
                        Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 348

                        If you haven't applied yet to a department, do it now. It'll be ok to be in the application process while you're in the academy. Back on topic, I'd go with the 21 while in the academy.

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                        • #57
                          ean909
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 57

                          Originally posted by Roddd
                          If you haven't applied yet to a department, do it now. It'll be ok to be in the application process while you're in the academy. Back on topic, I'd go with the 21 while in the academy.
                          I just might do that. Where would I look to find the dq information from each agency? Or is that something that's just discretionary and you can only find out when your going through the application process? Right now the chp is showing a little bit of interest but that's a different academy.
                          Plato: to do injustice is more disgraceful than to suffer it.

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                          • #58
                            BigDogatPlay
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 7362

                            Full information on disqualifiers is generally not publicly published. It does vary from agency to agency as different agencies have different levels of tolerance to risk.

                            Anything in the background that would prohibit possession of a firearm is a bar, as is unprescribed IV drug use or using / possessing controlled substances that are a felony to possess. Stuff like that. A clean driving record is a plus, a ticket here and there usually isn't a big thing... unless maybe they were for doing 100+ on the freeway. Your credit will be examined. Bankruptcy is not always a dq, but given the job market a good candidate with good credit is going to win out over a good candidate with average or worse credit.

                            The POST Personal History Statement says this on page 1:

                            There are very few automatic bases for rejection. Even issues of prior misconduct, such as prior illegal drug use, driving under the influence, theft, or even arrest or conviction are usually not, in and of themselves, automatically disqualifying.
                            Bottom line, it's very much up to what the hiring agency is willing to tolerate in a candidate. You really won't know that in any detail until you start looking at an agency, talking with recruiters and riding with officers.
                            Last edited by BigDogatPlay; 04-04-2012, 7:27 PM.
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                            Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

                            Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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                            • #59
                              ean909
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 57

                              Thank you BigDog.

                              Yes, I am starting to see the differant agency discretions, in talking to my instructors and other LE friends.

                              My background is my main concern when it comes to obtaining employment. I can still legally purchase and possess firearms and I have never tried/experimented with any IV type drugs, but my driving record is extensive. I have a few misdemeanor driving violations and I am delcaring bankruptcy in the near future. So in my opinion my background is far from ideal.
                              Plato: to do injustice is more disgraceful than to suffer it.

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                              • #60
                                rudeboy3
                                Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 364

                                I carry a 1911 for duty and I like it for a lot of reasons. Funny how state line culture changes over neighboring states, a lot of AZ agencies allow 1911s for duty. Glocks are good to go though, and I would stay away from getting something that is probably not approved for most agencies(FNP, Glocks in "off calibers" etc..).

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