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  • Paladin
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2005
    • 12411

    "Are Cops Racist?"

    That's the title of a book by Heather MacDonald that I thought I'd bring to your attention, if you haven't heard of it before.

    You can read about Heather and a number of her articles are linked online:
    The Obama administration’s hilarious commerce-clause argument against Arizona’s immigration law was too much even for U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton.


    Info about her book: http://www.manhattan-institute.org/cops/

    Amazon's webpage for her book: http://www.amazon.com/Are-Cops-Racis...9954468&sr=8-1
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  • #2
    oaklander
    Banned
    • May 2006
    • 11095

    Originally posted by Paladin
    That's the title of a book by Heather MacDonald that I thought I'd bring to your attention, if you haven't heard of it before.

    You can read about Heather and a number of her articles are linked online:
    The Obama administration’s hilarious commerce-clause argument against Arizona’s immigration law was too much even for U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton.


    Info about her book: http://www.manhattan-institute.org/cops/

    Amazon's webpage for her book: http://www.amazon.com/Are-Cops-Racis...9954468&sr=8-1
    IBTL

    ;-)

    There is a LOT on anything related to race. Urban Studies was my undeclared minor. That, and I have always been parts of diverse communities, by choice.


    Sent from my brain, to yours. . .

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    • #3
      TRICKSTER
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2008
      • 12438

      My experience has been that the party that makes the racism complaint is usually the true racist.


      Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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      • #4
        Mr310
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2011
        • 5692

        IBTL.

        Looks like a very interesting read! I'll definitely try and check it out.
        WARNING: This post may contain material offensive to those who lack wit, humor, common sense and/or supporting factual or anecdotal evidence. All statements and assertions contained herein may be subject to but not limited to: irony, metaphor, allusion and dripping sarcasm.

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        • #5
          Samuelx
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 1558

          I should write a book too - "Is Heather A Dumb B****?"

          And the point of this thread is what???

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          • #6
            TheExpertish
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 3451

            @SamuelX
            If you actually bothered to click on 1 of the links you would notice that she is pro cop.
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            • #7
              GrizzlyGuy
              Gun Runner to The Stars
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • May 2009
              • 5468

              Originally posted by Samuelx
              I should write a book too - "Is Heather A Dumb B****?"

              And the point of this thread is what???
              Are you sure that you want to imply that she is a "Dumb B****"? Here is a summary of the book:

              Mac Donald brings her special brand of tough and honest journalism to the current war on the police. She looks at allegations of racial profiling, and finds them wildly exaggerated, and writes about the black cops you never heard about, biased press coverage of policing, and how the reduction in urban crime as a result of activist policing has benefited black communities even more than white neighborhoods. Her iconoclastic findings demolish the prevailing anti-cop orthodoxy.
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              • #8
                1lostinspace
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2006
                • 7848

                Lol yes they are
                There are sniper everywhere and nowhere.....who knows what is out there.

                PUREMMA
                MIXED MARTIAL ARTS ACADEMY

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                • #9
                  Mickael81
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 637

                  The fact that some people have to read a book, to guide their opinion due to the lack of personal experience, tells me they are just naive easy to persuade type of individuals.

                  Im sure there are cops that are racist, just like there are racist people in any profesion. In law enforcement, racial profiling is necessary to get the job done. We live in a rough world and only the sheltered has the luxury to criticize those who do the dirty work for them.

                  A cop working in East L.A. will profile Hispanics and Blacks. A cop in some hick town in West Virginia will profile Whites. Its not about race but more about the ethnic makeup of an area.

                  The days of Martin Luther King Jr. are long gone. Minorities in California have more rights than whites. Soon even illegal aliens will be protected and receive more benefits than whites. WTF is everybody crying about?

                  People need to drop the race card and stop using it as a crutch to justify their ****ty predicament in life. U pay for the life you choose. Stop crying.

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                  • #10
                    wilmamiller32
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 8

                    aha bump to the first page!

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                    • #11
                      Press Check
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 4879

                      Originally posted by Mickael81
                      The fact that some people have to read a book, to guide their opinion due to the lack of personal experience, tells me they are just naive easy to persuade type of individuals.

                      Im sure there are cops that are racist, just like there are racist people in any profesion. In law enforcement, racial profiling is necessary to get the job done. We live in a rough world and only the sheltered has the luxury to criticize those who do the dirty work for them.

                      A cop working in East L.A. will profile Hispanics and Blacks. A cop in some hick town in West Virginia will profile Whites. Its not about race but more about the ethnic makeup of an area.

                      The days of Martin Luther King Jr. are long gone. Minorities in California have more rights than whites. Soon even illegal aliens will be protected and receive more benefits than whites. WTF is everybody crying about?

                      People need to drop the race card and stop using it as a crutch to justify their ****ty predicament in life. U pay for the life you choose. Stop crying.
                      I hope you're not a cop...

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                      • #12
                        fullrearview
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 9371

                        Originally posted by Mickael81
                        The fact that some people have to read a book, to guide their opinion due to the lack of personal experience, tells me they are just naive easy to persuade type of individuals.

                        Im sure there are cops that are racist, just like there are racist people in any profesion. In law enforcement, CRIMINAL profiling is necessary to get the job done. We live in a rough world and only the sheltered has the luxury to criticize those who do the dirty work for them.

                        A cop working in East L.A. will profile Hispanics and Blacks. A cop in some hick town in West Virginia will profile Whites. Its not about race but more about the ethnic makeup of an area.

                        The days of Martin Luther King Jr. are long gone. Minorities in California have more rights than whites. Soon even illegal aliens will be protected and receive more benefits than whites. WTF is everybody crying about?

                        People need to drop the race card and stop using it as a crutch to justify their ****ty predicament in life. U pay for the life you choose. Stop crying.

                        I fixed it for you... I hope your original post was joke.
                        "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest."~M.Twain~

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                        • #13
                          Samuelx
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1558

                          Gadsden & Grizzly - my points:

                          Simply by the choice of a title, you can evoke a certain reaction or response (i.e. Sensationalize). "Are Cops Racist?" is vague and open for interpretation/opinion as opposed to "Cops Aren't Racist" or "Cops Aren't As Racist As They Appear", which are pretty straight forward. "Are Cops Racist?" could be an honest question or it could be an accusation and stirring the pot. Ditto with "Is Heather A Dumb B****?" I could be accusing her of being that, I could be stirring the pot, it could be an honest question, or it could be me sensationalizing and intending to prove that Heather isn't. Just by me proposing that title, with no further info, how can you be sure of how I feel? See the similarity?

                          If a thread is started about something non self-explanatory and with blind links, IMO, there should be a quick line or two about who/what the thread is about - which would further explain exactly what the Author means with a title of "Are Cops Racist?". Btw, my inclination is not to click on blind links - especially if there is a risk of me reading some more anti-LE gibberish...

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                          • #14
                            ap3572001
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 6039

                            They are not. I have been an LEO almost 20 years. I am SURE some people are , but not the people I know or worked with .

                            From living in US most of my life , Midwest and Ca, what I see that MOST "normal" people have prejustice toward a "TYPE" of people. Not their race.

                            More like a stereotype.

                            I am white and may have prejudice toward some stereotype of people who are also white. Is that racism?

                            When I meet a person , I SEE what race they are. To me its important what kind of a person it is.

                            That is not just about work , but life in general.
                            Last edited by ap3572001; 10-31-2011, 5:54 AM.

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                            • #15
                              mlatino
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 2762

                              Originally posted by ap3572001
                              They are not. I have been an LEO almost 20 years. I am SURE some people are , but not the people I know or worked with .

                              From living in US most of my life , Midwest and Ca, what I see that MOST "normal" people have prejustice toward a "TYPE" of people. Not their race.

                              More like a stereotype.

                              I am white and may have prejustice toward some stereotype of people who are also white. Is that racism?

                              When I meet a person , I SEE what race they are. To me its important what kind of a person it is.

                              That is not just about work , but life in general.

                              Not to run off topic, but EVERY time I read one of your posts - which are generally precluded with "I am LE," I wonder to myself how you write reports or communicate adequately. "Prejustice" is just the tip of the iceberg. I've had to literally break down some of your sentences to try and make sense of them, and most of the time I'm unsuccessful.

                              What type of LE work do you do?
                              Originally posted by DREADNOUGHT78
                              Lol! Hey great time!!! I am beat tired and dude is definately getting his Hummer tomorrow!

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