Sad Day...

[HotRails]

OP- Sorry I missed it but, is this Eric Holder the US AG or Kamala Harris, the CA AG?

[Triad]

Jerry Brown, on one of his last days.

[yzErnie]

The saddest thing of it all is the fact the mess he wrote is merely an opinion. To many people misread the writing and believe it to be law. I get admin staff from several depts calling me all the time about that correspondence. When I tried to tell some higher ups from a local city PD that they got all indignent with me. Funny how people call you for an opinion and when it isn't what they wanted to hear they get oll goofy!!

[Notorious]

The saddest thing of it all is the fact the mess he wrote is merely an opinion. To many people misread the writing and believe it to be law. I get admin staff from several depts calling me all the time about that correspondence. When I tried to tell some higher ups from a local city PD that they got all indignent with me. Funny how people call you for an opinion and when it isn't what they wanted to hear they get oll goofy!!

Ain't that something that the AG's opinion is taken as law and yours is taken as blasphemy even though both have pretty much have the same weight as a hot fart on a winter's day when it comes to how property law applies in this case?

[RollingCode3]

The stupid thing is that these people argue about if they can't have it, then LEO's can't either, forget that when they get the guns taken away from LEO's, they lose all hope of it ever being available to the civilians too.

At least with LEO's getting them, the market is still there and we can change it and expand it eventually. With the LE market gone, what incentive is there to bring more of those guns into CA?

Stupid short-sighted people.

+1... I've noticed that this forum slowly turn into an anti-police forum. "Correction officers dont have the right to carry off duty" or "Retired cops don't have the right to carry off duty; they are just a civilian." They will throw any officer under the bus any chance they get especially those threads about "officer involved shooting"

A police officer is just as much a civilian as anywhere else.

We REALLY need to get rid of this sense of police officers being more than "civilians"

[Notorious]

See... When the civilans get non-roster guns via PPT, and there's enough of them out there in civilian hands, how hard would it be to then make an empirical argument that these guns aren't so dangerous after all?

What is the DOJ going to refute that with? They have no data to refute real world numbers. Keep on the pressure this way and we have more arguments. Take it away from LE and you have nothing.

[Falconis]

I noticed long ago some people here just hate cops. They do all they can to disguise it with arguments of us vs. them (usually implying we are the ones that propagate it), fairness, strict adherence to law, etc. I still wonder why I come here. In the end, I think this site is a good site for informational exchange and the CGF board members are doing a good thing.

I just wish people here weren't so short sighted as someone above mentioned, but I wish for a lot of things.

The arguments people felt they had to insert themselves here are meaningless once you look at the big picture. I am seeing they usually avoid subjects such as property rights and why officers buy rifles to begin with. With our department, it was the hope that a private purchase rifle program could be introduced like our shotguns were. Due to logistical reasons it was put on hold but not terminated. The opinion from Brown put it on further hold and temporarily placed the private purchase program on indefinite hold with our agency (much to the joy of some of the civilians here). In the end, it means we have to hope the guy with the rifle doesn't call in sick the night we need him sometimes. I am sure the civilians are ok with our officer safety being compromised since to them it's just a "catch all", but let me tell you, not having that extra "security net" sucks ***.