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  • Triad
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 1684

    Sad Day...

    Due to the recent opinion piece penned by the AG, our Sheriff will no longer issue letters for AR-15 (RAW).

    I'd been saving...
  • #2
    4FTTY
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 35

    Welcome to the club... Our boss made that decision before the AG put his opinion out. It's going to take some kind of active shooter incident or a Deputy getting outgunned for the admin to figure out that we need rifles instead of shoulder fired 9mms. It sucks.

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    • #3
      1911su16b870
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Dec 2006
      • 7654

      Sorry to hear that Triad...tis a very sad day.

      Posting this in the LE forum, I just wanted to say that any pro 2A person who for whatever reason (jealousy, contempt, feeling "un-equal") and feels that LE should not be have ARs really needs to examine their pro 2A.

      I am resolved to go featureless and be exceptionally good with what I have.
      "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

      NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
      GLOCK (Gen 1-5, G42/43), Colt AR15/M16/M4, Sig P320, Sig P365, Beretta 90 series, Remington 870, HK UMP Factory Armorer
      Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
      I instruct it if you shoot it.

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      • #4
        Falconis
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 1688

        Originally posted by 1911su16b870
        Sorry to hear that Triad...tis a very sad day.

        Posting this in the LE forum, I just wanted to say that any pro 2A person who for whatever reason (jealousy, contempt, feeling "un-equal") and feels that LE should not be have ARs really needs to examine their pro 2A.

        I am resolved to go featureless and be exceptionally good with what I have.
        +1 x100

        Convo I had earlier seemed to revolved around if I can't have one, why should you instead of nobody should be getting rifles taken away period.

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        • #5
          sfpcservice
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 1879

          If I were in charge I would make a law that says all good people can have any firearm they want and all bad people cannot have a firearm.... Hmmm.. :-)
          sigpic


          John 14:6

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          • #6
            Notorious
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 4695

            The stupid thing is that these people argue about if they can't have it, then LEO's can't either, forget that when they get the guns taken away from LEO's, they lose all hope of it ever being available to the civilians too.

            At least with LEO's getting them, the market is still there and we can change it and expand it eventually. With the LE market gone, what incentive is there to bring more of those guns into CA?

            Stupid short-sighted people.
            I like guns

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            • #7
              Roddd
              Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 348

              Are there any ARs out in the field on your department? I feel naked without mine while on duty. To me, it's an officer safety issue. It's not something you take out everyday, but it sure is comforting to know you have it.

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              • #8
                Triad
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 1684

                We have about ~200 Patrol deputies. 1/4 of those have AR's....1/2 of that 1/4 use their personal (purchased) AR's on duty.

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                • #9
                  BigDogatPlay
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 7362

                  Originally posted by 1911su16b870
                  Posting this in the LE forum, I just wanted to say that any pro 2A person who for whatever reason (jealousy, contempt, feeling "un-equal") and feels that LE should not be have ARs really needs to examine their pro 2A.
                  While I am sure that sentiment wouldn't play well with some outside the business, it is spot on.

                  I am resolved to go featureless and be exceptionally good with what I have.
                  Were I in that position, I'd be inclined to agree with you that featureless might indeed be the most logical alternative. And imagine the looks you'd get showing up to a call or to training sporting a (found by court to not be a thumbhole stock) U-15. While it's still not optimal, it's certainly better than some type of grip glove or the like.

                  -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

                  Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

                  Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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                  • #10
                    PolishMike
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 6034

                    Originally posted by Notorious
                    , they lose all hope of it ever being available to the civilians too.
                    A police officer is just as much a civilian as anywhere else.

                    We REALLY need to get rid of this sense of police officers being more than "civilians"
                    Artist formally known as CEO of Tracy Rifle and Pistol

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                    • #11
                      Falconis
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1688

                      Originally posted by PolishMike
                      A police officer is just as much a civilian as anywhere else.

                      We REALLY need to get rid of this sense of police officers being more than "civilians"
                      What are your reasonings?

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                      • #12
                        tgriffin
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 5175

                        It promotes an "us vs them" mentality. Officers are subject to the same laws as non-officers. Unless you are .mil, you are a civilian. Period.
                        Originally posted by pullnshoot25
                        I would love to have a hole cut in the ceiling so I could pop out and BAM! Hit 'em with my spice weasel...
                        Originally posted by aileron
                        The hassle would be between this. (_._) and this (_0_).
                        Originally posted by Neil McCauley
                        When Im wearing a miniskirt than yeah sure I use my foot to flush the urinals all the time!

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                        • #13
                          PolishMike
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 6034

                          Originally posted by Falconis
                          What are your reasonings?
                          Originally posted by tgriffin
                          It promotes an "us vs them" mentality. Officers are subject to the same laws as non-officers. Unless you are .mil, you are a civilian. Period.

                          Exactly
                          Artist formally known as CEO of Tracy Rifle and Pistol

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                          • #14
                            r3dn3ck
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 1900

                            I'm not a fan of much of the way modern LE operates but, denying them one form of lethal force tool over a different lethal force tool is retarded. All guns in the hands of LEO's are weapons meant to stop lethal encounters. Which part of lethal was unclear to someone?

                            Fine, if they're going to cockblock you on penetration, counter with a flying train wreck. 12ga slugs. Body armor doesn't matter against a slug, bad guy will still probably die even though it probably won't penetrate the vest (the vest is liable to penetrate the bad guy though). Then issue FN5-7 pistols and a mag of AP to every officer.

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                            • #15
                              1911su16b870
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 7654

                              Originally posted by PolishMike
                              A police officer is just as much a civilian as anywhere else.

                              We REALLY need to get rid of this sense of police officers being more than "civilians"
                              The "sense" is a perception and "perception is your reality", and IMO that perception is short sighted and incorrect.

                              We are all first and foremost citizens of this great United States of America.

                              CA law gives peace officers a little more authority (830PC etc.) and to call for diminishing LE right/ability to own firearms is anti-2A.
                              "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

                              NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
                              GLOCK (Gen 1-5, G42/43), Colt AR15/M16/M4, Sig P320, Sig P365, Beretta 90 series, Remington 870, HK UMP Factory Armorer
                              Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
                              I instruct it if you shoot it.

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