LASD level III reserve

[Notorious]

Is OCSD as bad as I hear? I went to Rio back in the day and while it was bad, I heard OCSD was worse. We had a guy on the department who lasted all of 6 days at OCSD and quit a sponsored ride there. Of course, this was in comparison to my class which lost 6 people on day 1, including a sponsored guy.

[SarcoBlaster]

For our level III class, they've been giving a LOT of grace even when we make mistakes. However, from observing the level I class they have going at the same time, the difference is night and day since they treat the level I's the same as a full-time, basic academy class.

It seems like the level I class pays for every mistake. For example, they were 30 seconds late from falling out of the parking lot and into the academy facility and got 2 sets of physical discipline for it (pushups and squat thrusts, 25 reps each). We usually hear them getting chewed out in the tactical offices, hallway, etc. Who knows how many remedial instruction reports they have to write.

[jaysen]

Is OCSD as bad as I hear? I went to Rio back in the day and while it was bad, I heard OCSD was worse. We had a guy on the department who lasted all of 6 days at OCSD and quit a sponsored ride there. Of course, this was in comparison to my class which lost 6 people on day 1, including a sponsored guy.

Not to get off-topic but wanted to chime in on the above

Don't know which class you graduated Notorious, but it had definitely changed since I went through, almost 7 years now. At my agency we just hired a guy who graduated about a year or 2 now and the stories I hear from him are WEAK compared to what WE went through.. Apparently they're allowed to run in running shoes now around ? No more push ups on the grinder; Squad Leader or someone needs to touch the ground first to check if its "too hot" prior to doing push ups - this was probably a result from an incident that occurred in my class where a Cadet had to go IOD from his agency with 3rd degree burns from doing push ups on the concrete, WHOOPS.

Runs range in the 2-5 miles range, whereas we were doing Nike Hill once a week and every other day was a 5 miler.

Not to mention a recent incident where Cadets/TAC staff were caught cheating. I heard from a friend that works for the college that all STAFF at the academy was forced to resign because of the incident; no more Bocanegra, Termath, kaylor, etc...

Around the time I went through it was rumored that the two toughest academies were Rio and OCSD. I have a buddy who just went through OCSD, who is an active AF Reserve, and sad it was pretty challenging - still very anal. Its sad to see such a good reputation for RIO hondo go down the drain. I was once proud to say I attended RIO, not so much anymore.

[epilepticninja]

I was a Level 1, we were the same as the regulars. I wouldn't want to stop at Level 3. You don't get into the sh-t at that level. I assisted detectives as a marked car for drug busts, etc. Went to stabbings, shootings, suicides, hot prowl burglaries, robberies. Foot pursuits, freeway chases. All the good stuff. And yes, as a Reserve, I worked parades, did transport, etc. But I was armed and had no supervision.

Same same. Got grandfathered in when they changed the Designated/Non-designated requirements in 1997 as I was Level 1 prior to that, but hadn't taken the Module D yet. I was working as a Level I at one agency, a Level II at another agency and on active duty in the military all at the same time. Needless to say, I didn't sleep much. I did that routine for four years, then got stationed overseas for what seemed like the rest of my life.

[SarcoBlaster]

Biola University??

I am a Level III with OCSD. We had a large academy class and two of the guys were sponsored by Biola.

There are some pretty good assignments that you can do as a Level III with OCSD. There is a LOT more to do than sit in the station and push paper. Our uniforms, equipment,weapons, etc. is exactly the same as the full time, Level I's, Level II's, etc., so when the SHTF, it is "go" time regardless of your status.

Good luck!

Yep, Biola University. Small world, haha. I'll send you a PM tonight or tomorrow Re: OCSD reserves for more info.

[Notorious]

For our level III class, they've been giving a LOT of grace even when we make mistakes. However, from observing the level I class they have going at the same time, the difference is night and day since they treat the level I's the same as a full-time, basic academy class.

It seems like the level I class pays for every mistake. For example, they were 30 seconds late from falling out of the parking lot and into the academy facility and got 2 sets of physical discipline for it (pushups and squat thrusts, 25 reps each). We usually hear them getting chewed out in the tactical offices, hallway, etc. Who knows how many remedial instruction reports they have to write.

Not to get off-topic but wanted to chime in on the above

Don't know which class you graduated Notorious, but it had definitely changed since I went through, almost 7 years now. At my agency we just hired a guy who graduated about a year or 2 now and the stories I hear from him are WEAK compared to what WE went through.. Apparently they're allowed to run in running shoes now around ? No more push ups on the grinder; Squad Leader or someone needs to touch the ground first to check if its "too hot" prior to doing push ups - this was probably a result from an incident that occurred in my class where a Cadet had to go IOD from his agency with 3rd degree burns from doing push ups on the concrete, WHOOPS.

Runs range in the 2-5 miles range, whereas we were doing Nike Hill once a week and every other day was a 5 miler.

Not to mention a recent incident where Cadets/TAC staff were caught cheating. I heard from a friend that works for the college that all STAFF at the academy was forced to resign because of the incident; no more Bocanegra, Termath, kaylor, etc...

Around the time I went through it was rumored that the two toughest academies were Rio and OCSD. I have a buddy who just went through OCSD, who is an active AF Reserve, and sad it was pretty challenging - still very anal. Its sad to see such a good reputation for RIO hondo go down the drain. I was once proud to say I attended RIO, not so much anymore.

I went through Rio 17 years ago. It was USMC-spec in every way except for the fact that we didn't get chow and had to bring our own cold sandwiches.

We ran like crazy... and got gassed and ran more, and ran at night sometimes through the cold rain and sprinklers on the field and everything got you "gigged" but my handwriting and printing improved a lot from it.

We did the front grinder, back grinder, in the gym, ran that front parking lot where 3 of our guys slipped on gravel and went IOD for a week... and one guy fell off the solid wall headfirst and was able to make it back to graduate... I still have the pictures of me being carried out on a stretcher after I fractured my kneecap in an exercise... yeah... memories....

[jaysen]

I went through Rio 17 years ago. It was USMC-spec in every way except for the fact that we didn't get chow and had to bring our own cold sandwiches.

We ran like crazy... and got gassed and ran more, and ran at night sometimes through the cold rain and sprinklers on the field and everything got you "gigged" but my handwriting and printing improved a lot from it.

We did the front grinder, back grinder, in the gym, ran that front parking lot where 3 of our guys slipped on gravel and went IOD for a week... and one guy fell off the solid wall headfirst and was able to make it back to graduate... I still have the pictures of me being carried out on a stretcher after I fractured my kneecap in an exercise... yeah... memories....

Yup, sounds pretty similar to what I went through.

Just the other day I was going through my "GIG" papers and found one one "Healthy Sandwich Nomenclature" why it was important for a cadet not to put mayonnaise on a sandwich.... DUMB, I know. Never understood the point of "Quickie changes" until I started working. Now I can arrive 3 minutes before briefing, get dressed in blues, and waiting with 30 seconds to spare! boo-yah !

[Notorious]

2 minutes and 30 seconds and you dare call that a Rio spec quick change?

We did ours in 2 minutes flat consistently. You guys had it easy!!!!

[cowboykenny]

OCSD was about a 30-40% drop out rate. I heard that they changed the fitness routine to do less running people were getting hurt. Plus they built the new academy in tustin a couple years back.