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  • SarcoBlaster
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 1775

    LASD level III reserve

    I'm currently about halfway though the level III academy at the OCSD academy and will be finishing at the end of June. They're not sure if they will have a level II class after ours, but word is it might not be until next year. If there's no level II academy this year, I'd like to at least get my foot in the door at one of the LASD stations as a level III reserve.

    In any case, I know level III's aren't allowed to have duties that are likely to result in making arrests, so what exactly can they do?

    I guess this question is geared toward those who work/have worked as a LASD deputy since I'm sure duties would differ from department to department.

    Thanks in advance!
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  • #2
    Bobby Ricigliano
    Mit Gott und Mauser
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 17439

    All of the reserves at the stations I have seen go 10-8 and make arrests. I'm sorry I don't know what a Level III is. We love our reserves though, especially on the weekends and when we are short.

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    • #3
      Tacit Blue
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 4134

      Correct me if i'm wrong but i think the following order goes like this:

      "Level I Reserve Officers

      This is the highest level of Reserve Peace Officers. These officers have the same law enforcement powers and authority as regular officers while on duty and may be utilized in such capacity depending on the policy of the host agency.

      To be appointed to this level, Reserve Officers must have completed at least one of the following course regimens and completed the department prescribed field training requirements:

      P.O.S.T. Basic Modular Course Level III, Level II and Level I, or
      P.O.S.T. Basic Academy, or
      P.O.S.T. Modules A, B, C and D, or
      Appointed as a Level One Reserve Officer prior to January 1, 1997
      Level I I Reserve Officers

      Level Two Reserve Officers have peace officer powers and work in a general law enforcement capacity under direct supervision of a qualified regular full-time peace officer. After successful completion of a prescribed training schedule and field experience, the Level II reserve officer is eligible to be promoted to a Level I reserve officer, as long as that officer has successfully completed the POST prescribed training as outlined above.

      Level I I I Reserve Officers

      Level Three Reserve Officers are are deployed and authorized only to carry out limited duties not requiring general law enforcement powers in the routine performance of duties. This may include duties such as traffic control and crowd control."

      source http://www.copquest.org/academy/

      http://lasdreserve.com/index.php?showtopic=2466 Check this out, alot of useful info too. I guess you wear the LASD uniform and carry a firearm, during traffic control or riots. Also it mentions work as a custody assistant within the jails.

      P.S i'm not LASD, nor LE Yet. Google is my friend
      Last edited by Tacit Blue; 05-10-2011, 4:03 PM.
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      • #4
        Tallship
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 609

        Most of our level III perform either specialized (Search and Rescue) or transport duties. The transport involves the reserve sitting at the station until the patrol dep brings in 10-16. After the station processing, the reserve then takes the prisoner down to central jail for booking, allowing the patrol dep to be back on his beat. The patrol deps love it.
        "We got too many gangsters doin' dirty deeds, too much corruption and crime in the streets. It's time the long arm of the law put a few more in the ground...."

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        • #5
          Tacit Blue
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 4134

          Do they drive the Astro Vans or a Marked/ unmarked unit? I think i've seen those level III's at Vista Detention Facility. When i drove past it, you can see the intake area from the street.
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          • #6
            1911su16b870
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            • Dec 2006
            • 7654

            FWIW stay in OCSD's excellent reserve academy until you complete your L1! Get it all done and then never look back (except for your 24hr/2year perishable skills).
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            • #7
              Tacit Blue
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 4134

              Ok i'm used to the idea of a POST basic academy or a extended academy. But if you do the academy in a module format first being level Level III then II is it the same as being a academy graduate? In that the next phase would be hiring phase> then field training?

              And is the structure still Para Military, in terms of the instructors? And the environment, stress . And for level 1 wouldn't you have to attend a regular academy for all 3 phases again regardless?
              Last edited by Tacit Blue; 05-10-2011, 11:38 PM.
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              • #8
                cowboykenny
                Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 207

                our level 3's don't leave the station unless they are doing vacation checks. (people on vacation fill out an out of town form.

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                • #9
                  Notorious
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 4695

                  Level III's are used as station guys manning the desk to take desk reports or helping out in general light administrative support roles. They don't ever go on patrol but may be used to stand around as traffic direction or visible presence for parades or other functions, however, we make sure there is an armed officer around the area since they still wear the uniform and we don't want people to take pot shots at them.
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                  • #10
                    SarcoBlaster
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1775

                    Thanks for the responses, everyone; they were really helpful.

                    Originally posted by Shumba
                    Based on your post, I assume you are self sponsored/blue in the OCSD academy. Any reason why you wouldn't want to work as a Level III reserve with OCSD? There are lots of opportunities/assignments and you could gain some great experience while you wait for the next Level II academy. I know it is a long process to get through backgrounds, but I assume the process is just as long with LASD. Why no love for OCSD?????
                    Yes and no in terms of being self-sponsored; kind of in a unique situation. I currently work for a campus safety department at a local, private university and they're paying for all of the fees and have supplied us (two other people from work are in my class) with all of the necessary gear.

                    I'm only going to the OCSD academy because 4 other people I work with graduated last year from there after doing the level III and level II, so they've been a huge help when it comes to procedures and whatnot. Also, I live in San Dimas, so the commute is kind of a downer as is, which is why I want to reserve for a department a little closer to home. I figure I'd still get some experience and my foot in the door for when I complete level II.

                    Originally posted by Tacit Blue
                    Ok i'm used to the idea of a POST basic academy or a extended academy. But if you do the academy in a module format first being level Level III then II is it the same as being a academy graduate? In that the next phase would be hiring phase> then field training?

                    And is the structure still Para Military, in terms of the instructors? And the environment, stress . And for level 1 wouldn't you have to attend a regular academy for all 3 phases again regardless?
                    The modular academy breaks it up into three phases: level III, level II, and level I. At OCSD, at least, you can do each module separately and stop whenever you want. Two people I work with went through the Fullerton academy and their program is either 10 or 12 months long and covers III, II, and I all together, so it's all or nothing.

                    The structure is most definitely para-military in terms of the instructors, environment, and stress. At OCSD, the stress level starts off low at level III, increases in level II, and when you're in level I, it's the same as the full-time academy.
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                    • #11
                      Tacit Blue
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 4134

                      Originally posted by SarcoBlaster
                      Thanks for the responses, everyone; they were really helpful.


                      Yes and no in terms of being self-sponsored; kind of in a unique situation. I currently work for a campus safety department at a local, private university and they're paying for all of the fees and have supplied us (two other people from work are in my class) with all of the necessary gear.

                      I'm only going to the OCSD academy because 4 other people I work with graduated last year from there after doing the level III and level II, so they've been a huge help when it comes to procedures and whatnot. Also, I live in San Dimas, so the commute is kind of a downer as is, which is why I want to reserve for a department a little closer to home. I figure I'd still get some experience and my foot in the door for when I complete level II.


                      The modular academy breaks it up into three phases: level III, level II, and level I. At OCSD, at least, you can do each module separately and stop whenever you want. Two people I work with went through the Fullerton academy and their program is either 10 or 12 months long and covers III, II, and I all together, so it's all or nothing.

                      The structure is most definitely para-military in terms of the instructors, environment, and stress. At OCSD, the stress level starts off low at level III, increases in level II, and when you're in level I, it's the same as the full-time academy.
                      That makes sense. Do you guys also have the infamous 'ARJIS-9's i unfortunately received a couple of those. Its infraction written for lint fibers on a uniform, or unpolished boots etc, or just any violation in the policy and procedures.

                      The format is like this:

                      TO: TRAINING OFFICER,OFFICER SMITH.

                      FROM: RECRUIT JOHN DOE #5757

                      SYNOPSIS: ON 10-20-2009 I FAILED TO ENSURE THAT MY UNIFORM WAS FREE FROM LOOSE THREADS OF LINT OR HAIR. THIS IS A VIOLATION OF ACADEMY POLICY AND PROCEDURE 28 etc. etc..

                      ORIGIN: TRAINING OFFICER SMITH DIRECTED ME TO COMPLETE AN ARJIS-9 DETAILING THE INCIDENT.


                      You get the idea, man those are the worst. You have to write them in all Block lettering. no more than 3 mistakes! Or they get kicked back.
                      Last edited by Tacit Blue; 05-11-2011, 3:50 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Tallship
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 609

                        Originally posted by Tacit Blue
                        Do they drive the Astro Vans or a Marked/ unmarked unit? I think i've seen those level III's at Vista Detention Facility. When i drove past it, you can see the intake area from the street.
                        They drive marked units, and they wear the exact same uniforms as the patrol deputies, so if you saw someone, you wouldn't know that they were a reserve, except if they were seventy or eighty years old (don't laugh, we have some reserves that age that still do transport!).
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                        • #13
                          Tallship
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 609

                          Originally posted by Tacit Blue
                          Ok i'm used to the idea of a POST basic academy or a extended academy. But if you do the academy in a module format first being level Level III then II is it the same as being a academy graduate? In that the next phase would be hiring phase> then field training?

                          And is the structure still Para Military, in terms of the instructors? And the environment, stress . And for level 1 wouldn't you have to attend a regular academy for all 3 phases again regardless?
                          In a modular academy, you can "graduate" and then be hired after any of the modules, so if you leave after completing Level III you can be hired on as a Level III reserve, etc. If you graduate Level I, you can get hired on as either a reserve or a full time officer.
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                          • #14
                            Subotai
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 11289

                            I was a Level 1, we were the same as the regulars. I wouldn't want to stop at Level 3. You don't get into the sh-t at that level. I assisted detectives as a marked car for drug busts, etc. Went to stabbings, shootings, suicides, hot prowl burglaries, robberies. Foot pursuits, freeway chases. All the good stuff. And yes, as a Reserve, I worked parades, did transport, etc. But I was armed and had no supervision.
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                            • #15
                              Tacit Blue
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                              • Feb 2009
                              • 4134

                              Originally posted by Tallship
                              They drive marked units, and they wear the exact same uniforms as the patrol deputies, so if you saw someone, you wouldn't know that they were a reserve, except if they were seventy or eighty years old (don't laugh, we have some reserves that age that still do transport!).

                              I thought those were RSVP or ' Victor ' units . I have heard of this before. Where they drive them to Jail for processing, and let the level 1's go back to patrol. First time i heard of such of thing is with Escondido Police. Someone knew a guy who got a job doing this. Makes sense it wouldn't be efficient to send a Deputy/ Officer to have them drive the prisoner. When you could have a level III do it.
                              Last edited by Tacit Blue; 05-11-2011, 4:31 PM.
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