going to the next exit when lit up on the freeway

[MikeH1]

Last year or two, two LE were killed during traffic stops on the freeway, one on the I-10 in West L.A., and another one on the I-405 in Palms, you would think that by now they would take you off the freeway to cite you, if anything for their own safety.

Either way, it's their chioce where you are to stop. If they feel safe inches from cars travelling 60+ MPH, it's not your problem.

[guns4life]

So you intentionally park with no other reason than to force the officer to stand in traffic. Wow. I really am both speachless and disgusted.

Negative, they intentionally park me...I have no say in where they tell me to stop, but I'll be damned if I'm going to be the only one in harms way or somebodies shield.

I have CHP in the family, so I don't do it for fun, I do it for MY safety.

You're free to feel however you like about it, it impacts my life in no way whatsoever.

[IrishJoe3]

Negative, they intentionally park me...I have no say in where they tell me to stop, but I'll be damned if I'm going to be the only one in harms way or somebodies shield.

I have CHP in the family,

so I don't do it for fun, I do it for MY safety.

Oh please, you really think a 190 lb officer standing on the shoulder between you and an oncoming car is going to somehow stop that car with his body and prevent you from injury?

Its unforgivable to intentionally place anyones life in danger. You really do so the absolutely worst of humanity on this job.

[guns4life]

The officer absolutely has no intention of putting you in harms way and is in fact only pulling you over for something YOU did. You however, by your own admission, are intentionally putting the officer in harm’s way for no other reason than that you are bitter.


Innocent until proven guilty...do I need to say more?

Oh! Great! You are related to a Chippie! That gives you full right to needlessly and intentionally place an officer’s life in danger.

No, it lets you know I take it seriously...I wouldn't do something to somebodies family member I would not want done to my own. The onus is on the officer for choosing a poor location to do his job.


Oh please, you really think a 190 lb officer standing on the shoulder between you and an oncoming car is going to somehow stop that car with his body and prevent you from injury?

No, but it will make him use his brain next time he pulls somebody over.

Its unforgivable to intentionally place anyones life in danger. You really do so the absolutely worst of humanity on this job.

Sticks and stones....

The only danger is that created by the officer. You need to remember the context of my comment and settle down a little bit. We're talking about a situation where I(the driver) don't feel safe in the spot the LEO has chosen. If it's not "safe for the chippie(etc)" it's not safe for me either, my 45lb door isn't going to save me so I'm not sparring an inch of the road so the officer can stand on my passenger side...I'm staying as far away from the danger(moving traffic) as I can. If it's him or me, I have a wife and child to protect and provide for...I'm not sorry about wanting to stick around and do my job.


The worst of humanity, indeed.

[BigDogatPlay]

If forced to park in a location I deem unsafe I will always make sure the passenger side of my vehicle is inaccessible to the officer. They are not using me and my vehicle as a shield when some idiot comes smashing into us at 65mph.

That's a real sporting attitude you have there.... a good friend of my wife's was medically retired from CHP from getting struck by a car while making a stop on a fairly narrow stretch of freeway that has about four miles between exists. Not funny, IMO.

And I've made my share of stops on the freeway... not my favorite place and I've long given a hat tip to the CHP guys who do it all the time. It's downright scary at times.

Something for the non-LEOs looking in here to consider... the emergency lights generally don't get activated until we are approaching a place where we feel we can safely conduct the stop. Please remember we are responsible for your safety, as well as our own, from the time we form our special relationship until it concludes. I don't want you to get hurt any more than I want me to get hurt. I was always more than willing to drive a ways before even lighting up a violator to get to a wide enough, well lit place for us to do our business.

Some of the assumptions I see in this thread pain me greatly.

[ckim34]

The only danger is that created by the officer. You need to remember the context of my comment and settle down a little bit. We're talking about a situation where I(the driver) don't feel safe in the spot the LEO has chosen. If it's not "safe for the chippie(etc)" it's not safe for me either, my 45lb door isn't going to save me so I'm not sparring an inch of the road so the officer can stand on my passenger side...I'm staying as far away from the danger(moving traffic) as I can. If it's him or me, I have a wife and child to protect and provide for...I'm not sorry about wanting to stick around and do my job.

The worst of humanity, indeed.

That train of thought is the exact same reason why police officers "over react" (according to the general public) in situations.

[guns4life]

Hush, or leave this forum. Edited -leelaw

[Falconis]

way i see it, you do whatever you feel necessary and we'll do the same. just don't whine if you end up on the short end of the stick.

[oldsmoboat]

I had a New Mexico trooper peeved at me one time. It was summer, I was on a 2 lane country road and all the grass on the shoulder was tall and dry/dead. It took me a while to find a driveway to pull into. He was ticked and asked me why I didn't pull over sooner. I told him I didn't want to pull into the grass and start a fire.
I got a ticket for speed. I deserved it too.

[Falconis]

3 digits or were you still in the 2 digit range? ... lol I know some of those 2 lane roads can get wide, long, and fast.

[Khram]

At the area with offramp near my home I commonly hear CHP forcing people to exit on PA instead of stopping of freeway. And it sounds like when Charlie Brown hears his teacher on phone. Wha wha wham wah. One recently yelled at me them glared at me then took off.

I still don't know what the heck he said or what he was upset about, maybe because I looked at my cell phone for a second to tell time.

Last two times I was pulled over on freeway they approached on passenger side and I didn't get a ticket. Friends car with a registration error that got cleared up.

People need to chill out here also. I can understand where that guy is coming from his life is just as valuable as LE. I think people are just taking things too personal. Actually aren't about half of on duty deaths a year stuff like these sort of accidents and the other half roughly things like being shot or stabbed?

I know CHP had a bad rash of these type deaths recently.


I may be wearing a tin foil hat but I'm wondering with the budget crisis if LE is getting more pressure to write more tickets which results in more stops which results in more accidents in a law of averages?

I'm always real cool when getting pulled over. I take keys out even and place on seat and leave seatbelt on and turn on overhead light if at night and try to park somewhere safe for us. And I do not make sudden movements

Don't know if that helps not get ticket but never got any for 8 years even though I got pulled over a few times and now I got two in last year. I also have some veteran related stuff in car. Either they don't know or don't care what it means lately or just don't have a heart anymore to give someone a break

Don't worry though I'll still try to park somewhere safe for everyones safely.

[oldsmoboat]

3 digits or were you still in the 2 digit range? ... lol I know some of those 2 lane roads can get wide, long, and fast.

If that was directed at me, 3 digits.

[JS89]

The only danger is that created by the officer. You need to remember the context of my comment and settle down a little bit. We're talking about a situation where I(the driver) don't feel safe in the spot the LEO has chosen. If it's not "safe for the chippie(etc)" it's not safe for me either, my 45lb door isn't going to save me so I'm not sparring an inch of the road so the officer can stand on my passenger side...I'm staying as far away from the danger(moving traffic) as I can. If it's him or me, I have a wife and child to protect and provide for...I'm not sorry about wanting to stick around and do my job.


The worst of humanity, indeed.

Now that's not true. The danger was created by you when you broke the law. If you don't want to take the risk of being stopped on the side of any highway, then maybe you shouldn't give a reason to be stopped. It's amazing these days how few people are willing to take responsibility for their own actions.

[Tripper]

I'm not being mean or impolite I am keeping myself safe, again that is what I would do and have done. And it is mainly due to the conditions and routes here, if a officer decides to get aggressive, fine I have 911 on the line, not a problem, the question was regarding safety, would any officer here, stop his own vehicle, if he was unarmed, in a nonlit roadway, that has traffic very seldomlyvin the middle of the night, and has not any officer here ever heard of accounts in their own departments if fake cops pulling over citizens. Yea you would be taking me to jail I guess, for being concerned for my own safety, you sure don't have anything else on me, I wasn't even speeding in the first place, can you really show me a DA that will not laugh at you for trying that one
I'm not tripping I'm not reading into it, I have absolutely been there. I know my area, you don't
Reserve your judgement of me for when you do actually know me.

Tripper

[Tripper]

Oh, btw, on a busy highway I'm pulling over right now most likely, unless I'm on a bridge, stopping on a bridge is illegal ya know
Highway 101, in certain areas there is no way I'll pull over till I get out of some areas, seen multiple secondary and tertiary wrecks with CHP all over the place, not a safe place to stop fir anyone