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  • #16
    ankyle62
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1449

    Originally posted by xbimmers
    It's not an issue...just an opinion.
    If we had a forum for firefighters or any other profession a certain level of respect would be expected. Just because you disagree with a profession doesnt mean you have to drop basic respect and civility.

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    • #17
      Tripper
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2011
      • 7628

      Most of the time What I say here, whether it sounds civil or not, is exactly, how I am with LEO's on a daily basis, I consider it, keeping them on the lighter side, gives them a chance to lash back at me with no repercussions, if they so desire.
      I'm argumentative in nature, and argue everything, bringing up lots of scenarios and argue with their replies/reactions to such scenarios. Most of the time giving them another perspective on things.

      I'm probably not considered to be very civil, and I dont care for political correctness, if it looks like duck, etc...


      Tripper
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      • #18
        Falconis
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 1688

        If your a LEO it's one thing. If you're not, don't expect reciprocity when it comes to civilty. A lot of us are bound by policy to be "professional" when dealing with the public. Take the meaning as you will. To say, hey I'm gonna call you a jackhole and I expect you to treat me the same isn't fair whether cops know it or not.

        It's also another thing if you know them personally. God knows I use to drop some language here and there with DA's I grew to know on a daily basis. The ones I didnt know, I kept it professional whether I wanted to or not.

        Here on the board, I think civility can be maintained even when your calling someone a dick.

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        • #19
          Notorious
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 4697

          I deal with everyone with the same level of civility and decorum until they give me a reason not to and then I still will maintain my professionalism when I need to take care of business. A professional doesn't let the other side dictate his actions.
          I like guns

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          • #20
            retired
            Administrator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Sep 2007
            • 9409

            Originally posted by xbimmers
            Why is it that someone felt it necessary to include "ask in a civil manner" when asking a LEO a question?

            It is my opinion that such an admonishment infers that civilians are second class to LEO personnel. Maybe I am overstating this and I am the only who feels this way. It is my opinion and thank you for respecting it as such.

            I am sure there are cases of people lashing out at a LEO on this thread, however, I would think that established rules of this site would suffice in dealing with any negative situation if such situation should arise.

            This site is a great resource for all who are interested in firearms, related subjects, and activities. I personally enjoy being apart of this community and learning and interacting with my fellow calgunners.

            I would be disappointed if this site becomes yet another example of an overly moderated forum where it's more like we are here for the moderation as opposed to being here together to enjoy our passion.

            Again, this is my opinion and I do not mean to offend anyone.
            To answer your question in some sense, this is a specialty forum and many of the specialty forums, if not all, have some additional rules not seen in the other forums. These additional rules are in addition to the regular site rules.

            The rules are the owner's rules. The owner is Kestryll. If you want to obtain a more detailed reason for this or any particular rule in the leo forum, please feel free to pm him and inquire.

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            • #21
              Notorious
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 4697

              Originally posted by retired
              To answer your question in some sense, this is a specialty forum and many of the specialty forums, if not all, have some additional rules not seen in the other forums. These additional rules are in addition to the regular site rules.

              The rules are the owner's rules. The owner is Kestryll. If you want to obtain a more detailed reason for this or any particular rule in the leo forum, please feel free to pm him and inquire.
              Nicely put.
              I like guns

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              • #22
                lavgrunt
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2004
                • 814

                Originally posted by xbimmers
                Why is it that someone felt it necessary to include "ask in a civil manner" when asking a LEO a question?

                It is my opinion that such an admonishment infers that civilians are second class to LEO personnel.
                ......That's cuz you ARE second class to LEO personnel.......Have u not come to realize that we are invincible, unflappable, omnipotent 'super beings' with total contempt for all you mere civilians ???!!!!......Especially 'CalGun' keyboard commandos....????!!!!!

                My god, man !!!! Where have you been ????!!!!!!

                HAHAHAHAHA !!!!.......Sorry........Couldn't resist............

                Just wanted to lighten the mood.............See, cops even have a sense of humor !!!!

                Hi 'inbox'.........!!!!
                "......I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you f**k with me, I'll kill you all......"

                Marine Corps General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders, 2003

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                • #23
                  ckim34
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 408

                  Originally posted by lavgrunt
                  ......That's cuz you ARE second class to LEO personnel.......Have u not come to realize that we are invincible, unflappable, omnipotent 'super beings' with total contempt for all you mere civilians ???!!!!......Especially 'CalGun' keyboard commandos....????!!!!!

                  My god, man !!!! Where have you been ????!!!!!!

                  HAHAHAHAHA !!!!.......Sorry........Couldn't resist............

                  Just wanted to lighten the mood.............See, cops even have a sense of humor !!!!

                  Hi 'inbox'.........!!!!
                  I do not have a sense of humor. I'm serious all the time. I wear my oakley sunglasses everywhere and always stand with my arms crossed.

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                  • #24
                    cacop
                    Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 310

                    Civil=polite.

                    Do you want to be a jerk? I try to be polite to everyone I meet. If they are a jerk to me then I have no use for them.

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                    • #25
                      voiceofreason
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3785

                      When asking someone a question, you are in effect, requesting information.

                      Information that they may or may not choose to provide based partially on the way the question is asked.

                      Basically, you're asking a favor; that the person/LEO gives up their time to educate you regarding a specific manner.

                      ---

                      On a forum board, it is not just courteous, but helpful to ask in a civil manner. Asking in an uncivil manner reeks of rudeness and entitlement.

                      In person, an LEO is usually armed.

                      ---

                      In the end, LEOs are people. That have hard and better days. They're in uniform... they're at work.

                      How do YOU like to be treated at work?
                      "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
                      John Quincy Adams

                      "You will never know how little my generation has traded away our freedoms and rights for. I'm sorry and ashamed for what we've left to the following generations."
                      voiceofreason

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                      • #26
                        inbox485
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 3677

                        Originally posted by lavgrunt
                        Hi 'inbox'.........!!!!
                        What's up? Thought you'd get a kick out of the [WHINE]telling me to be civil makes me feel like a second class citizen[/WHINE] nonsense.
                        Up for rent...

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                        • #27
                          Desert Dude
                          Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 112

                          Originally posted by voiceofreason
                          When asking someone a question, you are in effect, requesting information.

                          Information that they may or may not choose to provide based partially on the way the question is asked.

                          Basically, you're asking a favor; that the person/LEO gives up their time to educate you regarding a specific manner.

                          ---

                          On a forum board, it is not just courteous, but helpful to ask in a civil manner. Asking in an uncivil manner reeks of rudeness and entitlement.

                          In person, an LEO is usually armed.

                          ---

                          In the end, LEOs are people. That have hard and better days. They're in uniform... they're at work.

                          How do YOU like to be treated at work?
                          What Voice of Reason said, + + +

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                          • #28
                            retired
                            Administrator
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 9409

                            Since the OP's question has been answered and he hasn't responded to my post even tho he has logged on since that post, there really is no reason for this thread to continue. He may have decided to contact Kestryll as suggested to ascertain the answer to his question.

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