How does LEOSA define firearm

[Notorious]

Screw that... I am going to buy me an AR pistol and adding it to my qual card to carry off-duty! Then it will be an everyday concealed weapon for me and within the spirit and letter of LEOSA!

[alex00]

What if a retired officer qualed with his RAW that he purchased on department letterhead?

I would feel comfortable doing that, before the AG opinion was released. Now I think you are in uncharted territory. Under LEOSA, you should be good to go. I don't know what your department would do/say about you keeping your retired ID if you didn't turn the RAW in and comply with the AG ruling.

Screw that... I am going to buy me an AR pistol and adding it to my qual card to carry off-duty! Then it will be an everyday concealed weapon for me and within the spirit and letter of LEOSA!

Personally, I think that if you qualified with your duty handgun, you would be fine carrying the AR pistol. No need to raise department range-staff eyebrows to the AR pistol. That goes back to the 'qualifies with type' language in the LEOSA. Handgun is a handgun is a handgun.

[Notorious]

Personally, I think that if you qualified with your duty handgun, you would be fine carrying the AR pistol. No need to raise department range-staff eyebrows to the AR pistol. That goes back to the 'qualifies with type' language in the LEOSA. Handgun is a handgun is a handgun.

That's LEOSA. Department regs require us to qualify with every single specific firearm that will be listed on our qual card for off-duty carry. While LEOSA will protect me with respect to the law, I don't want to bother with the administrative headaches for violating general orders.

[swat]

I agree with your rationale on this matter, especially with regard to ammunition that is prohibited by California law. That being said I don't want to be the crash test dummy who challenges the State. I also retired from CA law enforcement and there is one thing I know, that the State has unlimited resources to prosecute a person or group. Most of us can't afford the financial, emotional, personal nor professional costs incumbent with such a battle.

[003]

SWAT:

Well said, I could not agree more. That is why it would be nice to get one of the big unions involved. In light of the new AG opinion relative to AW's when an active guy retires, we just may see some interest.

[Notorious]

There is definitely enough talk with all the line officers around here... I was in the car with 2 buds, one is a patrol LT and the other one is a chief of a small agency and they both had more than enough discussions with their troops.