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  • $nake-Eye$
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 656

    Modifying issue guns?

    Hello,

    Just wondering if LEOs modify their department issued guns?

    On one side: these are the guns that LEOs use to guard their lives everyday.

    On the other side: these are guns that are loaned to them so why invest money in a gun that doesn't belong to them. That is assuming the department even allows them to modify their guns.

    Just wondering...
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  • #2
    DEPUTYBILL
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 873

    It depends on the department.On my issued Sig 226,I have the hogue checkered factory grips, tape on the frontstrape of the grip frame and nightsights
    The department armor checked the gun over,and I was good to go.

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    • #3
      yzErnie
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Mar 2007
      • 6309

      I don't use an issued gun, I use my personal Sig P226. It came from the factory with the SRT so the only thing I have changed was to Hogue finger groove grips. That is an on mod. One of armorers is a Sig certified armorer and he can do the AEP if I ever want that.
      The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

      Originally posted by RazoE
      I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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      • #4
        deadcoyote
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 4002

        Big no-no at my work to monkey with an issue weapon. Plus its a Glock, so what am i really going to do to it?
        Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.

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        • #5
          Jonathan Doe

          My dept armorer did the trigger job on my 92FS, within the spec., before I went through the armorers school myself. I do not use that gun. I use my personal Sig P226 9mm. I will buy it when I retire. No modification was authorized outside the spec. on dept guns.

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          • #6
            1911su16b870
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Dec 2006
            • 7654

            IMO adding night sights and grips should not be a big deal w most dept armorers
            "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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            • #7
              9mmepiphany
              Calguns Addict
              • Jul 2008
              • 8075

              I don't use an issue gun either and all my personally owned guns have been professionally tuned.

              these are guns that are loaned to them so why invest money in a gun that doesn't belong to them
              If I had to carry an issued gun, and it wasn't a major violation, I'd have it tuned too. I'd want every advantage if I had to use it at work. My feeling is that the officer who gets it after me, would just be ahead of the game
              ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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              • #8
                SoCalDep
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 815

                My issued pistol at one time had CTC lasergrips which is an authorized modification if you take the "laser" pistol class. I carry a personally owned Sig P226R with an Insight WX150 light and a short trigger installed by Sig.

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                • #9
                  alex00
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 839

                  My Department doesn't allow us to modify the issued guns, beyond adding grips. The grips must be installed by the range staff. Modifications to personal weapons are highly regulated, and must be approved by the range.

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                  • #10
                    BigDogatPlay
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 7362

                    One of my past employers issued, and nothing could be changed, period unless it was done by an armorer off a narrow list of approved changes. Don't like the grips, find another one in the rack with a grip you do like and sign out that one. Personally I always preferred to use my own, but in my last agency all mods to personally owned had to be signed off on.

                    The armorers I've known were always willing to do whatever was desired, so long as it was within department guidelines and didn't create any kind of a safety issue.
                    -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

                    Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

                    Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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                    • #11
                      fullrearview
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 9371

                      If we cant change minds about carring what we want, I am hoping I can get a trigger job and magwell funnel for the H&K usp40
                      "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest."~M.Twain~

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                      • #12
                        retired
                        Administrator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 9409

                        When I got out of the academy in 1976, I changed the stock wood grips on the issued S&W Model 15 .38cal revolver to some larger wood grips. I was ready to go. Didn't do anything to the Beretta 92f. Well, they changed the mag release to the right side since I am a lefty, that's it.

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                        • #13
                          Notorious
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4695

                          No mods to issued guns other than putting night sights on them and adding a M3 or M6 taclight/laser.

                          Same with your own gun that you use for duty.

                          Not sure if they are allowing the Express sights, Big Dots, or whatever else or if we have to use factory sights if we don't go with night sights. I know for sure that Laser that goes where the rear sight goes is not allowed and neither is Crimson Trace internal lasers since that is considered a modification to the recoil spring.
                          I like guns

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                          • #14
                            bshnt2015
                            Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 215

                            sights and grips-maybe but no modifications on trigger, barrel. magazine extensions, too much liability.

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                            • #15
                              Gnome
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1693

                              I am on the same Dept. that Retired worked for. Nowhere near his time on and experience though. When I came on, the first thing I did was add the Hogue grips w/ the finger grooves to my Beretta 92FS. Other than that, night sights, and CTC laser grips were the only other modification allowed.

                              And the only other on-duty gun even worth carrying was the HK USP .45/.45 Compact. However, within the last two years, my department has allowed the addition of a weapon light to the gun, and more guns (assorted Sigs and the S&W M&P 9mm/45mm).
                              We are in the process of switching out our old Ithacas with 870s w/ Surefire weapon light and Knox Spec Ops stock.

                              So, we've made some progress, but we still can't get our Dept to sign off on letters for our own patrol rifles (AR 15). It has been proposed and shot down (pun intended).

                              I mean come on! Chippies have them for Christ's sake! Why can't we!?

                              Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                              During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

                              He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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