LEO owning an Assault rifle.

[darksands]

Just wanted some information about LEO's owning assault rifles. Do you guys need to get permission? A letter from the Lt.? If you guys are planning to convert a gun to an AW, anything you guys legally have to do?

[ke6guj]

yes, if an LEO wants to own an AW, it must be registerd to them. Part of the process in order to purchase it from the FFL and register it with CADOJ, they have to get a permission letter from the dept.

[darksands]

yes, if an LEO wants to own an AW, it must be registerd to them. Part of the process in order to purchase it from the FFL and register it with CADOJ, they have to get a permission letter from the dept.

Thanks.

Ill give my buddy a heads up. Whether he does it or not... That's up to him.

[Big D]

Not all departments will authorize their officers to register assault weapons. Many do, but I don't want you to think that all LEOs in this state have carte blanche to get whatever they want.

[KillZone45]

When you guys say "assault weapons" do you mean like AR's without the BB? or full auto guns? I am kinda confused by this assault weapons term.

[ke6guj]

When you guys say "assault weapons" do you mean like AR's without the BB?

this.

I am kinda confused by this assault weapons term.

this is the legal definition of an AW.

12276. As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the following designated semiautomatic firearms:
(a) All of the following specified rifles:
(1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models identified as follows:
(A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47.
(D) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
(2) UZI and Galil.
(3) Beretta AR-70.
(4) CETME Sporter.
(5) Colt AR-15 series.
(6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR110 C.
(7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter.
(8) MAS 223.
(9) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1
(10) The following MAC types:
(A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M11.
(11) SKS with detachable magazine.
(12) SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551.
(13) Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48.
(14) Sterling MK-6.
(15) Steyer AUG.
(16) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S.
(17) Armalite AR-180.
(18) Bushmaster Assault Rifle.
(19) Calico M-900.
(20) J&R ENG M-68.
(21) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
(b) All of the following specified pistols:
(1) UZI.
(2) Encom MP-9 and MP-45.
(3) The following MAC types:
(A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M-11.
(C) Advance Armament Inc. M-11.
(D) Military Armament Corp. Ingram M-11.
(4) Intratec TEC-9.
(5) Sites Spectre.
(6) Sterling MK-7.
(7) Calico M-950.
(8) Bushmaster Pistol.
(c) All of the following specified shotguns:
(1) Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12.
(2) Striker 12.
(3) The Streetsweeper type S/S Inc. SS/12.
(d) Any firearm declared by the court pursuant to Section 12276.5 to be an assault weapon that is specified as an assault weapon in a list promulgated pursuant to Section 12276.5.
(e) The term "series" includes all other models that are only variations, with minor differences, of those models listed in subdivision (a), regardless of the manufacturer.
(f) This section is declaratory of existing law, as amended, and a clarification of the law and the Legislature's intent which bans the weapons enumerated in this section, the weapons included in the list promulgated by the Attorney General pursuant to Section 12276.5, and any other models which are only variations of those weapons with minor differences, regardless of the manufacturer. The Legislature has defined assault weapons as the types, series, and models listed in this section because it was the most effective way to identify and restrict a specific class of semiautomatic weapons.

and

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
(4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

[Ron-Solo]

Also, once you get the letter from the Chief/Sheriff (or his designee) you have to buy an AW from a CA licensed AW dealer for you to be able to register it with the state. You can't just take the bullet button off of your OLL rifle. I already looked into that possibility and got shot down by DOJ and flamed by my department.

[E Pluribus Unum]

I already looked into that possibility and got shot down by DOJ and flamed by my department.

Did the ensuing flame consume said permission letter on department letterhead?

[Ron-Solo]

Did the ensuing flame consume said permission letter on department letterhead?

LMAO.............The letter never got written. It takes an act of God to get a letter from our department because the Sheriff issues policy to God.

[darksands]

Essentially what happened is he had a Mini-14 in a perfectly legal configuration with 30rd magazines. Then he bought an aftermarket stock with a pistol grip and collapsible stock and put that on with no BB effectively making it into a AW by definition.

What kind of trouble, if he even does get in trouble, would he be in?

[Ron-Solo]

Essentially what happened is he had a Mini-14 in a perfectly legal configuration with 30rd magazines. Then he bought an aftermarket stock with a pistol grip and collapsible stock and put that on with no BB effectively making it into a AW by definition.

What kind of trouble, if he even does get in trouble, would he be in?

Potential felony for an assault weapon by feature, loss of gun rights forvever.

BAD

The Mini-14 is a nice gun without all the evil stuff

[desmark6]

Is a pistol grip really worth a prison term? Geeeez, take the crap off of the weapon before he gets into trouble!!!

[pTa]

I read Assaukt Rifle / whixch is entirely different to an AW

and YES / if he values his freedom put the Mini back into the original stock (or 1 with no PG)

[Ron-Solo]

I read Assaukt Rifle / whixch is entirely different to an AW

and YES / if he values his freedom put the Mini back into the original stock (or 1 with no PG)

HUH???????????

[darksands]

Is a pistol grip really worth a prison term? Geeeez, take the crap off of the weapon before he gets into trouble!!!

Well, all I can do is let him know. Convincing him is the hard part. According to him my bb ar's are illegal. I'll have my other Leo friend tell him.