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  • garandguy10
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    • Apr 2008
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    Threat from Nieghbor

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    Last edited by garandguy10; 03-08-2019, 7:55 PM.
  • #2
    Blue
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 8069

    Your "very very expensive" alarm system needs cameras.
    Lord, make my hand fast and accurate.
    Let my aim be true and my hand faster
    than those who would seek to destroy me.
    Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine.
    Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun."
    And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home, let me die in an empty pile of brass.
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    • #3
      tyrist
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 4564

      You were not out of line by requesting he not detonate them directly in front of your home however, I would advise you to no longer have contact with him. If he is setting off fireworks just make a call to the police non emergency line. If the threat he made to you is exactly how you stated it there is no crime since it was conditional. Just keep calling the police and hope he gets tired or gets caught.

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      • #4
        Ron-Solo
        In Memoriam
        • Jan 2009
        • 8581

        Keep a log of incidents, and report any direct threats to the police. Do what you can to avoid contact, as he has already demonstrated that he will not listen to you. Call the police any time you witness illegal activity.

        Find out if your PD has a "Special Problems Team" and arrange a meet with the team leader. Your neighbor is the type of person they like to deal with.

        Best of luck.

        Documenting any threats and police reports may also help you establish "good cause" for a CCW in the future. Always get a report number or incident number for future reference.

        Best of luck
        LASD Retired
        1978-2011

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        • #5
          Exile Machine
          No longer in Business
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 9551

          Flying a Confederate flag? Check.
          Family Ties to Idaho? Check
          Heavy Tats? Check.
          Blows Stuff Up? Check.
          Death Threats? Check.
          Head shaved to the skin? ______?

          Right now you have 5 out of 6 signs for trouble. Depending on how you fill in the blank on that last item, determines your next move.

          -Mark
          P.S. BTW I personally have 3 out of those 6
          Manufacturer of CA AWB Compliance Products from Oct 2009 to Nov 2018

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          • #6
            BillCA
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2005
            • 3821

            [H]e starts to walk across the street towards me, and I start to walk towards him we meet in the middle of the street, and I ask him what happened last night to set my alarm off, he stutters and stammers and say's that he was not sure, and I say that I think that a explosive devise set my alarm off and I tell him to not set off any explosive devices in front of my home again, he say's that it is the 4th of July and everybody is blowing things up. I once again tell him to not blow up any explosive devices in front of my home. that they are illegal, he then state's
            "**** you, You can not tell me what to do, and if you try to stop me I will shoot you!, I will pop a cap in your ***". At that point I say nothing, and return to my home and called the local police and told them about the threat.
            Rule #1 of neighborhood diplomacy:
            Always "soft-sell" your displeasure with a neighbor over minor issues. That means asking them to change their behavior and at times giving them a cogent reason for doing so...
            I'd appreciate it if you'd set off fireworks in your own (back) yard or somewhere else.
            ...or...
            Hey, I like fireworks too. But those are the illegal kind and are way loud. And I'm expecting an elderly relative to visit for a few days and I'd hate for her to have a coronary because you set one of those things off.

            Remember, once you escalate beyond "please" and "thank you" to making demands or threating to call police, the neighbor is more likely to dig in his heels and/or get angry. As we saw in your case.

            Even if he gets obnoxious about your request, if you stay calm and don't engage in angry yelling in return, there's the potential to save the day. Some people refuse to be told what to do, but will cooperate if you ask.

            The Threat
            I'd take the threat semi-seriously. If he continues to fire loud explosive devices, by all means contact the PD and let them know of it. You don't need to tell them who you think did it, but if you saw him doing it, then tell the PD it's "a heavily tattooed white male..."

            Get a small journal book and keep it handy. Start recording any incidents of loud noises or potentially illegal or disruptive behavior on the part of your neighbor. You hear a noise, look outside and see your neighbor. Write it down. Hear a noise, no neighbor, write it down. Record date & time and a description of the incident. This way, you have a neighborhood incident log to turn over to the cops/DA.

            Park your cars in the garage. It's all too easy for someone like your neighbor to rig a device up to your car's muffler/cat/exhaust to fire off a minute or so down the road.

            If he throws fireworks at you or your home, duck away quickly. I don't know if it's still done, but in the early 80's some Vietnamese gangs would dip M100's into glue and then submerge them in BB's to coat it. When thrown or launched, it acted like a shotgun blast. If he does something like this, immediately call 911 and report it as a bomb.

            Final Suggestion:
            Get yourself a webcam and mount it in a front window to monitor your front yard/driveway area. If nothing else, it gives you a safer way to "look out the window" than opening the drapes or blinds.

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            • #7
              cortayack
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 1758

              I would've let things be, unless this was a nightly thing!

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              • #8
                Steve G
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 1931

                I would call PD and report a bomb going off. You should definately get some cameras and a DVR installed.

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                • #9
                  winnre
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 9214

                  Video camera on you ALWAYS.
                  "If Jesus had a gun he would be alive today"-Homer Simpson

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                  • #10
                    Onlyincali
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 678

                    In all reality, you just made a big frikkin deal over a FIREWORK(excuse me.... A 5" long explosive device made of cardboard")

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                    • #11
                      BigDogatPlay
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 7362

                      Originally posted by Onlyincali
                      In all reality, you just made a big frikkin deal over a FIREWORK(excuse me.... A 5" long explosive device made of cardboard")
                      And this....

                      "F*** you, You can not tell me what to do, and if you try to stop me I will shoot you!, I will pop a cap in your A**".

                      takes it to an entirely different, and unacceptable, level. Rather than try to be an adult and work out the differences, the neighbor across the street threatens physical violence.Yeah, that works.

                      Part of the issue here is that people very often don't take into account the people around them when they start lighting that stuff off. I enjoy good fireworks as much as the next guy, but there are limits.

                      Example.... I had some real problems with one of my dogs on 7/4. The sedatives we have to give them didn't kick in on the boy and he got so frantic from the M-80s and illegal aerial stuff a few doors away that he crapped himself in the house in terror. And we're talking a 65 pound Malinois, with all his teeth. I wound up drugging him a bit more and then driving out into the farmlands east of town and sitting in the car in the dark in the middle of nowhere with him for three hours until he finally chilled.

                      Think I was mad? Think I had a right to be, given that the fireworks in question are all 100% illegal? That I had to deal with dog crap in my house, and sit out with him for hours when I could have been enjoying my evening seems like kind of big deal to me.

                      I wandered down the street the next day and let the neighbor, who just moved in a couple of months ago, know what had happened and that I'd appreciate it if he would confine himself to the legal kind of fireworks in the future. We'll see what happens.

                      To the OP... glad you've installed camera(s) and DVR. As others have said, definitely keep a log. If moving is out of the question, then you're going to have to make the best of it. Depending on what kind of stuff is going on across the street, the city code enforcement unit (if there is one) can be a help as well.
                      -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

                      Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

                      Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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                      • #12
                        Ron-Solo
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 8581

                        Originally posted by Onlyincali
                        In all reality, you just made a big frikkin deal over a FIREWORK(excuse me.... A 5" long explosive device made of cardboard")
                        NO, he made a big deal over ILLEGAL EXPLOSIVES (a Felony) that is posing a danger to his person and property.

                        A person's 'right to express themselves' does not supercede another's right to peace and quiet.

                        Every time he causes a problem, call the police on him and document it.
                        LASD Retired
                        1978-2011

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                        CRPA Life Member
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                        • #13
                          manuelcardenas77
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2544

                          Confederate flag white racist skinhead , noway I can't believe that one.

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                          • #14
                            gdun
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 602

                            I don't know what county you're in, but it sounds like just cause for a CCW, especially with the police report.

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                            • #15
                              killmime1234
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1536

                              Definitely avoid anymore unnecessary confrontations with the neighbor. However, in the event you do have to make contact, RECORD it. Either get a small voice recorder or use your cell phone and record the conversation. If he threatens you again, what was "borderline prosecutable" should quickly become a cakewalk for a DA. My $.02.

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