armed security and parking question

[CaptMike]

I'm glad I put that last line in my response. Good catch on that doj investigator being 830.1
I remember about 10 years ago I had 3 doj investigator new hires take a PC 832 firearms class I co taught, and they told me they were limited peace officers. I guess they had not taken that part of their training yet.

Maybe being a peace officer has let JB see the light. Maybe that's why he seems more supportive of law enforcement and gun rights issues. Hmmmm

[Cpl. Haas]

Actually, that's not correct. Peace Officers (not sworn LEOs) only have powers of arrest when they are on the job. Loss Prevention Officers are not Peace Officers of any sort, so they never have an LEO's power of arrest.

Basically off-duty peace officers and loss prevention officers only have the same power of arrest that you do as a private citizen.

I wasn't referring to arrest powers... I was referring to the specific act of detaining someone based on reasonable suspicion a crime has been committed. Private citizens and private security guards cannot detain someone (ie: "hey, you... come here; I wanna talk to you!") based on reasonable suspicion... they can only make private person's arrests as covered in PC 837.

Sworn peace officers covered under PC 830.1 and 830.2... as well as loss prevention officers operating under the provisions of PC 490.5 are able to detain people based on reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed... in the case of loss prevention, that power is limited to suspicion of theft from the establishment they're acting as an agent of. These detentions don't have to lead to an arrest...

I brought that point up because the OP mentioned detaining the guard for carrying a holstered gun cocked.