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  • masameet
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 4487

    CHP Officer Mark Saylor

    I just heard his mother-in-law on ABC Radio News. She was one of the witnesses today at the Toyota Brake Recall hearings in Washington, D.C. She had that unmistakable Filipina accent, so I Googled her and found instead her lost loved ones.

    How much did the CHP investigation of CHP Officer Mark Saylor, his wife and 13-year-old daughter, and brother-in-law's deaths contribute to the massive Toyota recall? (More info: http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/...AGAjQsByg.cspx )

    The incredibly ironic aspect of their deaths is they were using a loaner car, a 2009 Lexus. But for that damned car they'd prolly still be alive.
    Last edited by masameet; 02-24-2010, 4:46 PM. Reason: Added another hyperlink
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    sgtbuck
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 604

    Originally posted by masameet
    I just heard his mother-in-law on ABC Radio News. She was one of the witnesses today at the Toyota Brake Recall hearings in Washington, D.C. She had that unmistakable Filipina accent, so I Googled her and found instead her lost loved ones.

    How much did the CHP investigation of CHP Officer Mark Saylor, his wife and 13-year-old daughter, and brother-in-law's deaths contribute to the massive Toyota recall? (More info: http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/...AGAjQsByg.cspx )

    The incredibly ironic aspect of their deaths is they were using a loaner car, a 2009 Lexus. But for that damned car they'd prolly still be alive.
    Sad so sad...... You know with his level of training in EVOC if he could not stop that car no one could. I still believe it's the computer NOT the floor mats or the pedal.
    Last edited by sgtbuck; 02-24-2010, 8:20 PM.

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    • #3
      Ishoot
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 1144

      Wow, so very sad. A lot of those pictures remind me of my own family. Can't imagine the loss.
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      • #4
        Tacit Blue
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 4134

        I watched the Congressional hearings with Toyota today. The issues lies with the Electronic Throttle Module which is faulty, which is also interconnected to the pedal. The odd thing is that theres 2 different versions of the pedals one which is the JDM version is sold to vehicles in Japan and the Eastern region, then 2nd being the North American Version which is made by a subcontractor hired out by Toyota with the sticky pedal. It was interesting to the the President and the CEO get nailed in the Hot seat
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        • #5
          IronColt
          Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 487

          Originally posted by SkunkHaze
          I watched the Congressional hearings with Toyota today. The issues lies with the Electronic Throttle Module which is faulty, which is also interconnected to the pedal. The odd thing is that theres 2 different versions of the pedals one which is the JDM version is sold to vehicles in Japan and the Eastern region, then 2nd being the North American Version which is made by a subcontractor hired out by Toyota with the sticky pedal. It was interesting to the the President and the CEO get nailed in the Hot seat
          is this in the drive by wire system only ?

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          • #6
            Tacit Blue
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 4134

            I believe so. All others use Pedal linkage to the intake throttle body which has a sensor called the mass air flow sensor sending a signal to the ECU like 95% of cars made since the 80's and until recently
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            • #7
              Trigger Finger
              Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 105

              Very sad. I remember when this happened. The AMC police Matador had a problem similar to this. AMC investigated the problem for the department I worked for and there recommendation was to turn OFF the ignition with the key. It won't turn all the way to get the key out but it will turn enough to turn the engine off. If you don't know this that Matador with the HP 401 V8 would get up to about 150 mph.
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              • #8
                Tacit Blue
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 4134

                People tend to panic in a situation, I woulda have slammed the gear shifter into neutral who cares if the motor over revs and blows up. But he was approaching a busy intersection down here in San Diego so..
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                • #9
                  Peter W Bush
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                  • Jan 2009
                  • 4727

                  Originally posted by SkunkHaze
                  People tend to panic in a situation, I woulda have slammed the gear shifter into neutral who cares if the motor over revs and blows up. But he was approaching a busy intersection down here in San Diego so..
                  I wonder why he didnt put it in N or downshift to 1st????
                  Poor guy!!!
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                  • #10
                    Tacit Blue
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4134

                    These technologies were developed for F16s and Jet fighters which were digital fly by wire, until recently they started using them in high end performance cars. But this appears to be a obvious software glitch.
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                    • #11
                      bwiese
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                      • Oct 2005
                      • 27621

                      Originally posted by SkunkHaze
                      People tend to panic in a situation, I woulda have slammed the gear shifter into neutral who cares if the motor over revs and blows up. But he was approaching a busy intersection down here in San Diego so..
                      Bingo.

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                      • #12
                        We Are Apocalypse
                        Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 171

                        There was a report of a lady whose car did the same thing and she tried to put it into neutral and it still kept going.
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                        • #13
                          WokMaster1
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                          • Mar 2006
                          • 5436

                          From what I understand, he did shift to different gears but nothing happened. Same thing with the woman who testified before Congress. The car kept going.
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                          • #14
                            Mike-4
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 792

                            Based on sources close to the investigation, he did everything he could to stop the vehicle. Everything mentioned and more was attempted but obviously did not work.
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                            • #15
                              We Are Apocalypse
                              Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 171

                              All the more reason to buy American.
                              "If you're not ready to die for it, put the word 'freedom' out of your vocabulary."

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