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  • #31
    hummveecop
    Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 102

    I am a retired LEO and carried Glocks of all shapes and sizes, my faves were the Glock 21 and 20, in that order - still own the G20, with a Lone Wolf 10mm-40 conversion barrel so I shoot it in .40 S&W. Have yet to own an XD, only like the full sized tactical model in .45. Price wise Glock with their Blue Label program beats Springfield hands down. Glock's long standing excellent reputation and customer support speaks for itself.
    Last edited by hummveecop; 02-26-2012, 7:49 PM.
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    • #32
      thomashoward
      In Memoriam
      • Jan 2009
      • 1991

      I am Glock free at this point and do not miss them. I have a XD45 Duty I like a lot. Mainly because it shoots to point of aim,has a loaded chamber indicator,cocked firing pin indicator, and grip safety like my 1911's.and XD45 has a 13 round magazine available. and lastly their customer service is great.I sent in a magazine that was bothering me and they sent a new one by return mail. The only negative I have is they don't shoot 200 gr SWC.
      next an XDm .45 compact
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      • #33
        dls
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 2598

        21 -21
        hurry close the thread.
        The chair is against the wall...

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        • #34
          XDshooter
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 902

          Originally posted by dls
          21 -21
          hurry close the thread.
          The poll has been closed for a week.
          Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
          I was on a ride-along, and the officer i was with saw a parked car with occupants. He was going up to ask them to move their car and as soon as he gets to the window the passenger says "I have meth under my seat."

          I've never understood the self-confessors....

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          • #35
            quiet-wyatt
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Dec 2008
            • 934

            Originally posted by XDshooter
            That is 100% BS.

            If that was truly the case, then on a misfire round you could simply pull the trigger again and have the striker strike the primer again.

            However, you can't. The slide needs to cycled to reset the trigger, JUST LIKE AN XD. Pulling the slide back places the striker back behind the sear.
            Actually... No - Not "100% BS"... Not "JUST LIKE AN XD"...

            An XD is a single-action striker mechanism, whereas the Glock is a double-action striker mechanism...

            "The striker firing mechanism has a spring-loaded firing pin that is cocked in two stages, powered by the firing pin spring. When the pistol is charged, the firing pin is in the half-cock position. As the trigger is pulled, the striker is then fully cocked. At the end of its travel, the trigger bar is tilted downward by the disconnector, releasing the striker to fire the cartridge. The disconnector resets the trigger bar so that the striker will be captured in half-cock at the end of the firing cycle."
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            • #36
              ramathorn
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 1653

              Hope you enjoy your new gun! You couldn't have gone either way, both will function perfectly and get the job done.

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              • #37
                CalCop
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 573

                I worked for an agency where originally the issue weapons were Glock. Then they started issuing XD. When I got there it was about 1/2 and 1/2 on the firing line. XDs were breaking and malfunctioning all day long at the range, delaying our firing line. Armorer's always mailing XDs back to Springfield for warranty repair. Glock.....I saw one repair necessary done on the bench.....VERY few malfunctions. I think that real world test of duty weapons is the best test. The XD looks cool and has some nifty features....but the Glock is the tried and true winner to bet your life on.
                "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen."
                -- Sir Robert Peel

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                • #38
                  zfields
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 13658

                  Originally posted by quiet-wyatt
                  Actually... No - Not "100% BS"... Not "JUST LIKE AN XD"...

                  An XD is a single-action striker mechanism, whereas the Glock is a double-action striker mechanism...

                  "The striker firing mechanism has a spring-loaded firing pin that is cocked in two stages, powered by the firing pin spring. When the pistol is charged, the firing pin is in the half-cock position. As the trigger is pulled, the striker is then fully cocked. At the end of its travel, the trigger bar is tilted downward by the disconnector, releasing the striker to fire the cartridge. The disconnector resets the trigger bar so that the striker will be captured in half-cock at the end of the firing cycle."
                  Glock is more of a "single and a half" mechanism. The striker is PARTIAL cocked back during the cycle of the slide, the trigger brings it back a bit further then releases. When you dig into modifying triggers, the XD has a bit more potential since it is already cocked all the way back, and just required the sear to be tripped.
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                  • #39
                    BigDogatPlay
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 7362

                    Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
                    might have something to do with the lack of a departmental discount.
                    Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

                    Glock made their bones in the LEA move to semi-autos of the late 80's and early 90's, in large part, because:

                    * They marketed their gun as requiring virtually no transition training required to move from DA revolver. Wasn't true, as many departments learned after tragic circumstances happened, but they still sold butt loads of contracts and guns.

                    * They were willing to cut price to the absolute bone to win contracts. Their sales guys could and would go under everyone else's price to land a deal.

                    Glock is a good platform, but I've never been able to be truly proficient with one, which is why I carried S&W and later Sig semi-autos for so long. If I was going to be running an RFP tomorrow, I'd consider M&P and Glock before XD.
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                    • #40
                      223556
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3345

                      Glock FTW!
                      I owned the XD45 Service Model and it was a smooth shoother, shot very well.
                      My only dislikes are the grip saftey and high axis.
                      If the grip saftey is not fully depressed (which is kinda hard to do but possiable) it will not fire and you can not rack the slide back.
                      Other then that it is a fine weapon.
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                      • #41
                        XDshooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 902

                        How does that make any difference as far as safety is concerned, IT DOESN'T. The striker is partially cocked.

                        Double action, blah blah blah, still not a true double action weapon. More like single and half action. It can not re-strike, so the point is mute.



                        Originally posted by quiet-wyatt
                        Actually... No - Not "100% BS"... Not "JUST LIKE AN XD"...

                        An XD is a single-action striker mechanism, whereas the Glock is a double-action striker mechanism...

                        "The striker firing mechanism has a spring-loaded firing pin that is cocked in two stages, powered by the firing pin spring. When the pistol is charged, the firing pin is in the half-cock position. As the trigger is pulled, the striker is then fully cocked. At the end of its travel, the trigger bar is tilted downward by the disconnector, releasing the striker to fire the cartridge. The disconnector resets the trigger bar so that the striker will be captured in half-cock at the end of the firing cycle."
                        Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                        I was on a ride-along, and the officer i was with saw a parked car with occupants. He was going up to ask them to move their car and as soon as he gets to the window the passenger says "I have meth under my seat."

                        I've never understood the self-confessors....

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                        • #42
                          sand951
                          Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 274

                          I vote for Glock. I've carried the Glock 21 as my duty weapon for 10 years. I have never had a malfunction when shooting it.

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                          • #43
                            XDshooter
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 902

                            Originally posted by CalCop
                            I worked for an agency where originally the issue weapons were Glock. Then they started issuing XD. When I got there it was about 1/2 and 1/2 on the firing line. XDs were breaking and malfunctioning all day long at the range, delaying our firing line. Armorer's always mailing XDs back to Springfield for warranty repair. Glock.....I saw one repair necessary done on the bench.....VERY few malfunctions. I think that real world test of duty weapons is the best test. The XD looks cool and has some nifty features....but the Glock is the tried and true winner to bet your life on.
                            I'm sure most people have very little faith as what you are saying is accurate.

                            "XD's were breaking and malfunctioning all day long"
                            Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                            I was on a ride-along, and the officer i was with saw a parked car with occupants. He was going up to ask them to move their car and as soon as he gets to the window the passenger says "I have meth under my seat."

                            I've never understood the self-confessors....

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                            • #44
                              Sunday
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 5574

                              The best way is to try them both and see which works best for you.
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                              • #45
                                CalCop
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 573

                                Originally posted by XDshooter
                                I'm sure most people have very little faith as what you are saying is accurate.

                                "XDs were breaking and malfunctioning all day long"
                                Perhaps you are not familiar with figures of speech.

                                I shared my personal observations and experience.....so if you want exact numbers, sorry I did not keep records of the malfunctions, but the XDs were malfunctioning at a minimum of 10 times more than the Glock...and like I said, the Glock....only once.....the XDs......several times at every range day were XDs malfunctioning and causing pauses in the firing line. The Glocks were older, too. So, have you experienced the malfunctions?....maybe not......but as a duty weapon being abused on the firing line?......I witnessed Glock win, hands down, on reliability.
                                "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen."
                                -- Sir Robert Peel

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