LEO and AR hi-caps

[ghost_ix]

I have read a lot of threads on here about LEO's owning hi cap mags for AR's (personal use) and cannot get a clear answer. Yes I know CA laws dont make sense some times. From what I understand, LEO's can buy 20 or 30 rd mags already assembled, but cannot buy rebuild kits with the intention of assembling into hi cap mags.

And correct me if I am wrong, rebuild kits can be assembled out of state to be used in say Nevada? But must be disassembled prior to returning back to CA.

Taking these two into account (considering I have it right), can a LEO assemble a rebuild kit outside of CA, and then import it back?

[mlatino]

Even LEO'S can't insert a 30 round magazine into a BB'D AR. This is an automatic AW.

LEO'S CAN buy 20 or 30 round mags already assembled, and they can buy rebuild kits and assemble them into hi caps (As long as they're not going in the BB'D AR).

Kits can be assembled out of state by private citizens, and must be disassembled prior to returning back to CA, correct

[Eroland7]

An LEO can only use 20 or 30 round magazines in his AR if that AR is a registered assault rifle. An LEO can use the same 20 or 30 round magazines in a non AW rifle format such as a kel-tec SU-16 without any issues.

[ghost_ix]

LEO'S CAN buy 20 or 30 round mags already assembled, and they can buy rebuild kits and assemble them into hi caps (As long as they're not going in the BB'D AR).

This is what I wanted to hear. Thanks.

Yes I understand they cannot be used on a BB'd AR. I plan on making a featureless build, and at this point I just wanted to pick up a couple of 20/30 rounders, either by using rebuild kits or just buying them as is..

[SJgunguy24]

The Obama scare ramp up it's basiclly 6 and 1/2 dozen the other as far as price is concerned.
You can get mags for AR mags for 8-15$ and rebuilds are about the same.

[ke6guj]

Yup, LEOs can manufacture large-capacity magazines by assembling parts kits.

[ParallaxTactical.com]

As far as my inquiry goes into this question, LEOs cannot manufacture in state.

[ghost_ix]

As far as my inquiry goes into this question, LEOs cannot manufacture in state.

I've read this also in other threads, which is why I asked in the original post "can a LEO assemble a rebuild kit outside of CA, and then import it back?"

[Unit74]

What's lame is that I have a Dept issued Colt 6920 and two OLL's I bought myself.

I can go to the same range, same time, run a 100 round drum on the Colt but when it comes to the OLL's, I am somehow irresponsible and have to have them BBed and 10 rnd mags.

All three guns sit next to each other in the safe.....

But to answer your question, LEO's can buy any highcaps they choose . Dept ID is required though. And once you retire, you can keep whatever you obtained but you cannot buy anymore.

[code33]

LEO exemption:

PC 12020(b)(30)(B)
The manufacture of a large-capacity magazine for use by a
sworn peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with
Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 who is authorized to carry a
firearm in the course and scope of his or her duties.

As far as my inquiry goes into this question, LEOs cannot manufacture in state.

[ke6guj]

As far as my inquiry goes into this question, LEOs cannot manufacture in state.

incorrect, as code33 posted the exemption.

I've read this also in other threads, which is why I asked in the original post "can a LEO assemble a rebuild kit outside of CA, and then import it back?"

Yes, a LEO may import a magazine from out-of-state. The fact that he might have "assembled" or "manufactured" it while out-of-state is immaterial.

[CSACANNONEER]

An LEO can only use 20 or 30 round magazines in his AR if that AR is a registered assault rifle. An LEO can use the same 20 or 30 round magazines in a non AW rifle format such as a kel-tec SU-16 without any issues.

Pure FUD! A LEO or, anyone else for that matter, can use +10 round magazines in there AR OLL if it is featureless!

[professorhard]

I'm not so sure if this is accurate, though I may be wrong. I think LEO can have a large capacity magazine in a BB'd AR-15 rifle that is not registered as an A.W. We are exempt from the 10 round mag rule, and as long as the rifle has a pistol grip, but is not capable of accepting a detachable magazine I think it would comply with Cal Law. I always wondered about that too and asked around. Though I would never question a LEO who has a 20/30 round mag in a BB'd AR-15.

FUD. If it's not a RAW a LEO cannot put a 30 round mag into a BB equiped AR without making it an assault weapon.

[ke6guj]

I'm not so sure if this is accurate, though I may be wrong. I think LEO can have a large capacity magazine in a BB'd AR-15 rifle that is not registered as an A.W. We are exempt from the 10 round mag rule, and as long as the rifle has a pistol grip, but is not capable of accepting a detachable magazine I think it would comply with Cal Law. I always wondered about that too and asked around. Though I would never question a LEO who has a 20/30 round mag in a BB'd AR-15.

you have an exemption so that you can be sold large-capacity magazines. Your exemption to the large-capacity magazine ban does not allow you to possess an AW. If a BB'ed AR-15 has an 11+ round magazine in it, it is an AW. It does not matter if an LEO made the AW.

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:

(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

[bridgeport]

What's lame is that I have a Dept issued Colt 6920 and two OLL's I bought myself.

I can go to the same range, same time, run a 100 round drum on the Colt but when it comes to the OLL's, I am somehow irresponsible and have to have them BBed and 10 rnd mags.

All three guns sit next to each other in the safe.....

But to answer your question, LEO's can buy any highcaps they choose . Dept ID is required though. And once you retire, you can keep whatever you obtained but you cannot buy anymore.

Yep, and a guy who turned 18 back in '99 could have bought and registered all the AR's AK's FAL's etc. and gone to Pomona and bought boxes of Hicaps
etc...... Today, at the ripe old age of, what, 28...29.... have the right to possess and legally use these whereas a sworn LEO just one or a few years younger would not except for his company rife. Move to Arizona, and you get those rights back. Doesn't seem right does it?