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  • #31
    retired
    Administrator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Sep 2007
    • 9409

    I received a jury summons every year of the 27yrs I was in LE and a couple of times before I was hired. The 2 or 3 times I went thru voir dire it was before the same PD. He excused me each time. A few years before he appeared in Muni court in Whittier where I lived. During a court break with only me still in the courtroom he asked me if I had a case. I said no I was in law school and wanted to observe courtroom procedure. A year or so later I was in Superior Court and he had transferred there. He remembered me and asked if I was still in school. When I said no he asked the usual do you know someone LE and I said yes me. Gone! That happened twice over the next two years. Then I had a Capt. who told us to take the LE exemption which I did over my career.

    I received a subpoena the same year I retired but took the medical exemption due to my back. Can't sit in those chairs for even an hour.

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    • #32
      indy78
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Mar 2013
      • 59

      Yes And

      Originally posted by PeteH
      After you retired, did you get a jury duty notice?
      I shredded them

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      • #33
        Edgy01
        Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 145

        The answer to Jury Duty is simple. Tell them that you don't believe that you can get justice in America. I learned that from a former California Superior Court Judge neighbor. I've never served on a jury, retired military and a Federal Marshal.

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        • #34
          Warbonnet
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2022
          • 3970

          Originally posted by Edgy01
          The answer to Jury Duty is simple. Tell them that you don't believe that you can get justice in America. I learned that from a former California Superior Court Judge neighbor. I've never served on a jury, retired military and a Federal Marshal.
          Refuse to swear the juror oath. When the judge asks you if you willing to "affirm", go ahead and agree, but it won't matter. You will be considered a trouble maker and will be excused by the prosecution.

          Works every time.

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          • #35
            dno
            Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 282

            Originally posted by eta34
            I know we are exempt. I?ve been on the job 25 years. We aren?t exempt in retirement. I guess you are ok with the hypocrisy of your position.
            Gee, you sound like a dedicated public servant...so do you think it's not a waste of time to sit and wait to be called, when if you're called no defense atty would ever allow you on their jury? You may be dedicated, but you're not displaying any common sense.

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            • #36
              SDDAVE56
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 2323

              Originally posted by eta34
              Bizarre how many people complain about the freeloaders in society but won?t complete a simple civic duty.
              I do. Every time I go shooting, I clean up other peoples trash.

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              • #37
                Warbonnet
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2022
                • 3970

                Originally posted by eta34
                Bizarre how many people complain about the freeloaders in society but won?t complete a simple civic duty.
                I would be fine with thinking it to be a duty, if it were that judges and jury supervisors in the court system would be compelled to take a few days off of their work without any pay, and perform some other "civic duty" on demand.

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                • #38
                  TrailerparkTrash
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 4249

                  Originally posted by Warbonnet
                  I would be fine with thinking it to be a duty, if it were that judges and jury supervisors in the court system would be compelled to take a few days off of their work without any pay, and perform some other "civic duty" on demand.
                  Yup, the Cali legal system is B R O K E N. And I don’t care for it any longer. I stopped caring when I realized that the majority of ignorant Cali voters overwhelmingly vote democrat.

                  My civic duty is to pay my taxes and not commit a crime. That’s it. If summoned for jury duty, I’ll show up. However I’m getting out of it by telling the court my thoughts. “…everyone arrested is guilty. Period.”

                  Next!
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                  • #39
                    BadKitty
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1409

                    I'm not retired and I mark the LE exemption on my jury notices.

                    If I were retired, I guess I wouldn't mind doing jury service; but, here's the thing, I truly believe that I would struggle to not be biased. When you deal with criminals for a living, one's worldview can often become cynical. The mindset of "he's probably guilty" is hard to overcome for people who directly deal with guilty people all day for years.

                    If we're being honest, that's not fair for the defendant.



                    (Even though he's probably guilty.)
                    Meowr!

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                    • #40
                      Warbonnet
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2022
                      • 3970

                      Originally posted by TrailerparkTrash

                      My civic duty is to pay my taxes and not commit a crime. That?s it. If summoned for jury duty, I?ll show up. However I?m getting out of it by telling the court my thoughts. ??everyone arrested is guilty. Period.?
                      My sentiments exactly. I live in L.A. County, so I consider our criminal justice system here a total failure, and I refuse to waste my time with any jury duty dog and pony show until they fix the broken system.

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                      • #41
                        Citadelgrad87
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 16941

                        Originally posted by TrailerparkTrash
                        If you can?t say the right words to get out of jury duty, you?re a M***n.
                        If you can?t see how important jury service is to our system, you?re an even bigger m***n.
                        Originally posted by tony270
                        It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
                        Originally posted by repubconserv
                        Print it out and frame it for all I care
                        Originally posted by el chivo
                        I don't need to think at all..
                        Originally posted by pjsig
                        You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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                        • #42
                          Citadelgrad87
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 16941

                          Originally posted by dno
                          Gee, you sound like a dedicated public servant...so do you think it's not a waste of time to sit and wait to be called, when if you're called no defense atty would ever allow you on their jury? You may be dedicated, but you're not displaying any common sense.
                          Do you not realize that there are two types of jury trials, one criminal, the other civil.

                          Both need good jurors.
                          Originally posted by tony270
                          It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
                          Originally posted by repubconserv
                          Print it out and frame it for all I care
                          Originally posted by el chivo
                          I don't need to think at all..
                          Originally posted by pjsig
                          You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
                          XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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                          • #43
                            PeteH
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2021
                            • 79

                            Well I showed up today as they kept sending jury duty summons. As expected a waste of time. After waiting 2 1/2 hours downstairs then up to the courtroom. With the initial Judge run screening-overview of case and it's a homicide. Then put up the names of defense attorneys/witnesses and list of prosecution/witnesses. "Does anyone know any of the people involved?" "Yes your Honor, I retired from the Sheriff's Department and last worked in Cold Case Homcide so I've worked with most of the people testifying for the prosecution." "That will be an excusal." Why do they even bother?

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                            • #44
                              stormvet
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 12681

                              Haven’t got one yet, since we’ve been in AZ my wife has got one didn’t have to appear.

                              I would do my civil duty and go if summoned too, but I would also be honest and say if he was arrested and charged with the crime I’d lean very heavily toward the prosecution. If a civil case and they are asking for a large settlement I’ll vote no everytime.
                              Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                              • #45
                                TrailerparkTrash
                                Veteran Member
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 4249

                                Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                                If you can?t see how important jury service is to our system, you?re an even bigger m***n.
                                Go get ‘em kiddo! I wish you the best.
                                Me: Don’t care.

                                Would YOU really want me on your jury when I’d just say you’re “guilty?”
                                Last edited by TrailerparkTrash; 01-10-2024, 8:56 PM.
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