CCW Question

[f1tzg3r4ld]

^^^ I?m with 1audio on this one. Nothing personal, it?s just you made too many bad decisions in life and I?d say an IA will make an easy decision on your application. ?Denied.?

It is what it is. I truly hope that you did turn your life around and I believe if you?re serious, you deserve a second chance. ?but not a ccw at this stage in your life.

I hope being "Denied" is not the outcome. I completely understand if it is. Thank you all for the input.

[ldsnet]

Much depends on your IA. Be up front and honest ... Being 20 years ago, and rights restored, the worst they can tell you is no.....

I can tell you, there are probably officers on the department payroll that also have a shady past....

[kwest10]

Part of crime and punishment is you do the crime, you do the time you should be forgiven for your sins. However, your probation violation tells me you didn’t learn from your mistakes. If I were your IA it would be a hard no.

[f1tzg3r4ld]

Part of crime and punishment is you do the crime, you do the time you should be forgiven for your sins. However, your probation violation tells me you didn?t learn from your mistakes. If I were your IA it would be a hard no.

I see the entry you are talking about. That has been confusing me as I was not on probation nor had a violation of probation in 2019. I have had no issues since 7/23/2004, the charge was dismissed as I was not under the influence as confirmed by in jail alcohol and drug test. I did not receive a violation of probation as the charge was dismissed after the drug test came back. I attached a copy of the same record prior to me contacting CA DOJ to request amendment to reflect restoration of firearm rights. I believe that violation was part of the 7/23/2004 charge that was dismissed in 2004. Not sure why it is showing 7/11/2019 on the amended copy. Do you think I should try have that corrected prior to applying?

[GizmoSD]

You?ve whited out all the dates of the offenses, so it?s hard to keep a timeline of anything. That would add some clarity.

My guess is the DUI it was within 60 months of your 487 conviction. That?s why they added to 1203.2 to your DUI. The party must?ve been really good, cause three days later you got arrested again for under the influence.

You?re kind of beating around the bush. If you have everything done, apply. Then you?ll have your answer.

[ugimports]

I would see if you can get any/all of it expunged if it was 20 years ago..

I had some stuff when I was 21ish..in addition to stuff as a minor.

I got my > 18 stuff expunged in 2008ish... kept the paperwork and still listed it on my app, but as "expunged"... I have an FFL now...

ETA: I also have a Utah CCW...so not sure that helps answer your CA CCW question.

[f1tzg3r4ld]

You?ve whited out all the dates of the offenses, so it?s hard to keep a timeline of anything. That would add some clarity.

My guess is the DUI it was within 60 months of your 487 conviction. That?s why they added to 1203.2 to your DUI. The party must?ve been really good, cause three days later you got arrested again for under the influence.

You?re kind of beating around the bush. If you have everything done, apply. Then you?ll have your answer.

Your right. I'm just trying to make sure I have all my ducks in a row so to speak. The DUI, and under the influence of cont. substance, and probation violation was all one arrest. It was all dismissed. Drug test at the jail was clean.

[f1tzg3r4ld]

I would see if you can get any/all of it expunged if it was 20 years ago..

I had some stuff when I was 21ish..in addition to stuff as a minor.

I got my > 18 stuff expunged in 2008ish... kept the paperwork and still listed it on my app, but as "expunged"... I have an FFL now...

ETA: I also have a Utah CCW...so not sure that helps answer your CA CCW question.

Thank you I have an attorney working on that. Glad to hear things are going better for you.

[mk2dave]

OP, it sounds like the lawyer should help out with your CCW positioning as well. People change a lot in 20 years. Some people don't . I'd seek legal guidance for the best way to be in that former group.

I've always heard that a good way to pad your resume for a CA CCW is to get an out of state one first. The theory being it's harder for CA IA to turn you down if AZ (for example) says they are okay with it.

Whether this is true, effective, worth the time/money I have no idea. Probably another good question for a 2A lawyer.

Good luck. Keep in mind doubt can be minimize, but never erased.

[f1tzg3r4ld]

OP, it sounds like the lawyer should help out with your CCW positioning as well. People change a lot in 20 years. Some people don't . I'd seek legal guidance for the best way to be in that former group.

I've always heard that a good way to pad your resume for a CA CCW is to get an out of state one first. The theory being it's harder for CA IA to turn you down if AZ (for example) says they are okay with it.

Whether this is true, effective, worth the time/money I have no idea. Probably another good question for a 2A lawyer.

Good luck. Keep in mind doubt can be minimize, but never erased.

The instructor mentioned getting an out of state AZ permit for reciprocity with with many of California's neighboring states. I explained my situation to the instructor who is a current Deputy and was told "you should be ok." We shall see. Thank for the advice.