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  • five.five-six
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2006
    • 34883

    Sit outside while children are being shot

  • #2
    shojivic
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2012
    • 767

    Agreed.. When the time comes, you move forward with whomever is with you, and you take action. Monday-morning quarterbacking be damned.

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    • #3
      GizmoSD
      Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 281

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      • #4
        CBR_rider
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 2711

        I agree 100%.
        Originally posted by bwiese
        [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
        Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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        • #5
          pacrat
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2014
          • 10285



          Pete Arredondo, the chief of police for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, stopped at least 19 officers from breaking into the school as the gunman opened fire.
          Chief of police is quite a title. When his entire dept is himself and 5 security guards. But as Chief he had jurisdictional command of the scene. and everyone else on scene deferred to him. WTF.

          It was on his orders that the 20+ cops from 5 Agencies stood down?

          The entire Uvalde Police Dept, US Marshals, Texas Rangers, and CBP tactical team did nothing because of this guy?

          UN-F'n-believable.

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          • #6
            five.five-six
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2006
            • 34883

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            • #7
              edgerly779
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2009
              • 19871

              The incident commander who made that call should be put down or away. Some cop with balls and brains should have put him in custody and taken the door. Or windows. He is now a target I bet.

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              • #8
                five.five-six
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2006
                • 34883

                Here is a 911 emergency call timeline McCraw outlined at a news conference:


                12.03pm – The first call comes from a little girl who says she is in room 112. “She identified herself and whispered, ‘He’s in room 112’,” McCraw says, without identifying the pupil.

                12.10pm – The same girl calls back and advises there are multiple people dead.

                12.13pm – The girl calls again.

                12.16pm – She calls back and says there are eight to nine students alive.

                12.19pm – A 911 call is made from the phone of another child, in room 111. She hangs up when another student tells her to hang up, McCraw says.

                12.21pm – Authorities hear on the 911 call that three shots are fired. (It was not clear which 911 call they were listening to at that time.)

                12.36pm – A 911 call is made that lasts for 21 seconds.

                Unspecified time – The initial caller calls back and is told to stay on the line and be very quiet. She tells 911 “that he shot the door”.

                12.43pm and 12.47pm – “She asked 911 to please send the police now,” McCraw says.

                12.46pm – She says that she can hear the police next door.

                12.50pm – Shots can be heard on the 911 call, McCraw says.

                12.51pm – The 911 call is very loud and it sounds like officers are moving children out of the room. “At that time, the first child that called was outside before the caller cuts off,” McCraw said.

                At least two girls hiding in their classrooms at Robb elementary school in Texas dialled 911 during the shooting, law enforcement officials have said

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                • #9
                  Featureless
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 2267

                  Pete Arredondo, the chief of police for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, stopped at least 19 officers from breaking into the school as the gunman opened fire.
                  He was elected to the Uvalde City Council three weeks before. He campaigned on communication and "reaching out to those in need".

                  California Native
                  Lifelong Gun Owner
                  NRA Member
                  CRPA Member

                  ....."He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

                  Declaration of Independence, 1776

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                  • #10
                    badfish71
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 957

                    Sounds like a bunch of dudes lining up to make Lt.. Yeah I said it.

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                    • #11
                      five.five-six
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2006
                      • 34883

                      Originally posted by badfish71
                      Sounds like a bunch of dudes lining up to make Lt.. Yeah I said it.
                      Fox one fox one!

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                      • #12
                        FF90
                        Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 158

                        Not all are like that , friend advised that he saw on tulsa news, a training segment with new recruits, being told, as soon as you arrive you will go in, expect that you will be shot, BUT you will also stop the bad guy. that is what you signed up for. Then the rookies started (in an empty) school clearing tactics in ones and twos. That is how it should be done

                        I blame this ALL on "defund the police", "He didn't haave to be shot" , " he was always such a good boy" mentality,and the media is just a much to blame by brocasting these people without appropriate commentary of the opposite view

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                        • #13
                          GizmoSD
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                          • Mar 2017
                          • 281

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                          • #14
                            bohoki
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 20825

                            yea sounds like a lack of leadership i was confused why a border patrol agent went in i guess he said someone needs to do something and if not me who?

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                            • #15
                              Devilock04
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 3390

                              Originally posted by bohoki
                              yea sounds like a lack of leadership i was confused why a border patrol agent went in i guess he said someone needs to do something and if not me who?
                              New details have emerged about the heroic efforts of U.S. Border Patrol agents who stormed a classroom at a Texas elementary school this week and killed the 18-year-old Latino shooter who murdered 19 children.Approximately 80 federal agents had responded to the shooting on Tuesday at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, but were instructed by local law enforcement to wait and not go after the attacker.“After approximately 30 minutes passed, however, the federal agents opted of their own volition to lead the ‘stack’ of officers inside the school and take down the shooter,” NBC News reported.The report added that agents from ICE’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) had also responded to the shooting and were on scene.A source told the network that the breaking point for the federal agents was when they saw that parents were trying to get into the building themselves to pull their children out.According to one source, a senior law enforcement official, said the breaking point from federal agents came when parents were trying to go into the building themselves.— Matt Marshall (@_Matt_Marshall) May 27, 2022Latino Border Patrol agent Jacob Albarado had just sat down for a haircut when his wife, who was a teacher at Robb Elementary School, texted him and told him what was happening and asked him for help.“There’s an active shooter,” she said. “Help. I love you.”The New York Times reported that Albarado’s barber gave him a shotgun and that Albarado then ran out of the barbershop and sped to the school.The Wall Street Journal reported earlier in the week that the approximately 80 Border Patrol agents responded to the shooting out of the roughly 150 Border Patrol agents that were stationed in the town.“Initially, the Bortac agents couldn’t get into the classroom because of a steel door and cinder block construction,” the report said. “Meanwhile, the gunman … shot at them through the door and walls.”“The Bortac agents got a master key from the school principal that allowed them to enter the room,” the report added. “One Bortac agent’s shield was hit by rounds upon entering and a second agent was wounded by shrapnel. A third killed the suspect.”Fox News correspondent Bill Melugin tweeted out a photograph of the hat that the Border Patrol agent was wearing when he killed the attacker.“This is the hat the elite, veteran BORTAC Border Patrol agent was wearing when he breached the classroom with a tactical team and engaged/killed the Uvalde school shooter, a CBP source tells me,” Melugin tweeted. “Graze wound to head. Many BP agents in Uvalde have kids at the school.”NEW: This is the hat the elite, veteran BORTAC Border Patrol agent was wearing when he breached the classroom with a tactical team and engaged/killed the Uvalde school shooter, a CBP source tells me. Graze wound to head. Many BP agents in Uvalde have kids at the school. @FoxNews pic.twitter.com/924WCOZjsK— Bill Melugin (@BillMelugin_) May 25, 2022This report has been updated to include additional information. 
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