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  • #46
    scr83jp
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 678

    Originally posted by LesGrossman41510
    i just got a ticket today going 80 in a 65, i was coming down a grade and i wasnt even on the gas. i tried explaining to the CHP but he wasnt hearing it. i was issued a speeding ticket. my first one in over two years!

    anything i can do about it?
    go to traffic school on line

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    • #47
      scr83jp
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 678

      As soon as people heard I was a probation officer I heard this comment "I have this friend who has a problem " He was either a parolee or probationer trying to find out how he could beat the system. I got so tired of it when people asked what I did for a living I told them I worked for the county waste management disposal service,the questions stopped!

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      • #48
        glibreaper
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 1

        protest by following the law

        Now, if a committed group of people, say 500 to 1000 would commit to staging a peaceful protest against the state speed limts, the law would change.
        I really like this idea, Nikki. Having speed limit laws which are ignored by nearly everyone undermines respect for the law in general. This is especially pernicious when people see LEOs speeding during routine, non-emergency-response driving.

        Effective direct action doesn't need hundreds of people, although organizing something on that scale would be awesome. You just need as many drivers as there are lanes and to time the protest for peak traffic. A few dozen people could cause serious traffic jams if they were well coordinated. It wouldn't take much for people to notice. The trick would be in turning all that road rage into public outcry for reform of speed limits and traffic control.

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        • #49
          yzErnie
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Mar 2007
          • 6309

          Originally posted by jlh95811
          06-21-09:
          I know they can right as many as they see fit. But there is a number that the department as a whole MUST produce. If they do not do so in consecutive months their budget gets decreased.

          Originally posted by yzernie
          06-22-09:
          Very interesting....do you have anything to prove this information? That would essentially mean a quota and quotas were deemed illegal years ago.

          Unless you can provide proof of your above comment it certainly sounds like bad info to me.
          Were you able to locate the information you stated yet? I'd really like to see where this information is documented.
          Last edited by yzErnie; 06-24-2009, 10:34 AM.
          The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

          Originally posted by RazoE
          I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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          • #50
            jlh95811
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 2833

            Originally posted by yzernie
            Were you able to locate the information you stated yet? I'd really like to see where this information is dicumented.
            Don't be coy. It is undocumented. Otherwise there would be hell to pay. They aren't going to put it in writing.
            Funny though, how you thought I may actually be looking for it. As if I need proof to validate myself. I am above your little games.
            Last edited by jlh95811; 06-24-2009, 10:35 AM.
            "people shouldnt be bumping sold stuff. but it is hard to herd cats." - rkt88edmo

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            • #51
              yzErnie
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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              • Mar 2007
              • 6309

              Originally posted by jlh95811
              Don't be coy. It is undocumented. Otherwise there would be hell to pay. They aren't going to put it in writing.
              Funny though, how you thought I may actually be looking for it. As if I need proof to validate myself. I am above your little games.
              Wow...........your sarcastic reply is simply unwarranted. You threw out a comment with the insinuation you had knowlwdge of such a fact and I simply asked you to validate it. Did someone piss in your cereal this morning?
              The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

              Originally posted by RazoE
              I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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              • #52
                jlh95811
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 2833

                Originally posted by yzernie
                Wow...........your sarcastic reply is simply unwarranted. You threw out a comment with the insinuation you had knowlwdge of such a fact and I simply asked you to validate it. Did someone piss in your cereal this morning?
                Cap'n Crunch with Crunch Berries. Seriously, if you meant no harm then I apologize.
                They don't call it a quota and I doubt they talk about it other than the higher ups calling for stricter enforcement. It is simply a reality they must face.
                It's like if I were a sales manager and you were my sales rep. Of you did not sell enough product I'd either have to get your sales up or cut you as it creates less money for us and thereby my employer would cut our contract/budget funds cause we aren't making them enough money to warrant the cost.
                "people shouldnt be bumping sold stuff. but it is hard to herd cats." - rkt88edmo

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                • #53
                  AR-shogun
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 316

                  Originally posted by jlh95811
                  Tint shops would all be closed down if this were the case. I've never heard anyone I know or anyone I've met for that matter talk about getting a ticket for tint unless it was on the winshield or they went with a darker tint than allowed on the front two.

                  There are a couple different shades of tint. The number gets smaller as the tint gets darker.

                  Limo's use double the darkest tint available which is 5 tint. My car has a single layer of 5. It is just on the rear window and 2 rear sides. Tint darker than a 90 is illegal on the front two and any tint is illegal on the windshield.

                  Most factory cars from the shop today come with 20 tint on the rear and 2 rear sides. Yet some only use 50 tint.

                  If it were illegal they would not let the auto manufacturers sell the car.

                  What the vehicle code you showed is talking about is items that need be affixed to the windows that may obstruct the view. Such as GPS Units, Sun Shades, and non-transparent decals.
                  I was just wondering how many car companies put tinting on the front side windows. I was told it was illegal to have it (in CA) but not illegal for the company to put it on.

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                  • #54
                    retired
                    Administrator
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 9411

                    Originally posted by jlh95811
                    Don't be coy. It is undocumented. Otherwise there would be hell to pay. They aren't going to put it in writing.
                    Funny though, how you thought I may actually be looking for it. As if I need proof to validate myself. I am above your little games.
                    Jih, he was not being coy, as I too wondered if you were going to provide evidence to back up that earlier statement of yours. As has been stated; quotas are illegal. There is no set number of tickets that must be written by each leo per week, month, etc.

                    Obviously, if an officer assigned to a traffic unit failed to write any tickets or very few during, let's say, a month period, he would probably be contacted by a supervisor. NOT for failing to meet his quota, which again, is illegal, but for failure to do the job he/she is being paid for. In this case, that is traffic enforcement.

                    If you are going to make a statement like,
                    But there is a number that the department as a whole MUST produce
                    then provide some evidence to back that up when asked, otherwise it is just an opinion. When someone asks you if you have found that evidence, do not reply sarcastically as you did.

                    In the same vein yzernie,
                    Did someone piss in your cereal this morning?
                    is no less sarcastic.

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                    • #55
                      yzErnie
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 6309

                      Sorry dad.
                      The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

                      Originally posted by RazoE
                      I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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                      • #56
                        Eye-In-The-Sky
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 4

                        jlh95811 U need to EDUCATE urself

                        before you jump into your own conclusions about a certain department.
                        first the chp does not have to "sell" tickets like a sale rep as you mentioned.
                        as mentioned above...NONE OF THE REVENUES GENERATED BY CITATIONS GO TO THE STATE...NONE, ZERO, nothing, there's nothing to sell or buy!!!
                        second, there is no "must produce" as you mentioned. you are looking like a pissed off violator that got caught violating the law....pay the fine, quit whinning and learn from it!!! or go whine to the judge and see where you end up. just my 2 cents.
                        "...Hey! where's my remote?..."

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                        • #57
                          Eye-In-The-Sky
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 4

                          AR-shogun wondering????

                          the answer is ZERO car companies. None tint there front windows. you must be talking about a "CAR DEALER". big difference there, dealer and manufacturer. no matter what the shade, or its lighter than limo or its just a tad light.....is a violation of 26708(a)(1)vc- why? if it is PERMANENTLY ATTACHED, its a violation...sign the ticket. bottom line is....DON'T TINT YOUR FRONT WINDOWS IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE STOP BY THE POPO!
                          "...Hey! where's my remote?..."

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                          • #58
                            Ron-Solo
                            In Memoriam
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 8581

                            Originally posted by AR-shogun
                            I was just wondering how many car companies put tinting on the front side windows. I was told it was illegal to have it (in CA) but not illegal for the company to put it on.
                            The factories don't apply tinting to the outside of the glass. The factory tint is inside the glass. Some car dealers apply tinting but it still doesn't mean it's legal to drive the car with it on. Seems kind of misleading to people in my opinion.
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                            • #59
                              hkdad
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 3112

                              valentine V1 FTW... get it professionally installed and don't have to worry about it.
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                              "I see an empty magazine, I think it needs to be loaded." -hickok45

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                              • #60
                                Compuham
                                Member
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 181

                                Sometimes being just a little over a speed limit will get you a cite if you fail the attitude test!!!!
                                People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
                                George Orwell (1903 - 1950)

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