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  • #16
    Bobby Ricigliano
    Mit Gott und Mauser
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 17439

    I bought a Glock 34 MOS Gen 5 earlier today. Given the current situation and normal pricing, it was one of those impulse buys that just makes sense. Been sworn for many moons, but I don’t know anything about the blue label guns.

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    • #17
      code_blue
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 3452

      Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
      I bought a Glock 34 MOS Gen 5 earlier today. Given the current situation and normal pricing, it was one of those impulse buys that just makes sense. Been sworn for many moons, but I don’t know anything about the blue label guns.

      It's just special pricing, Bobby. You save approximately $100 off each gun after the additional magazine is considered. Normally, the cost of the pistol retail is what you'd pay OTD under blue label pricing.

      The label on the box is literally blue hence "blue label". There are also white, red, and purple labels noting different sale classifications. White is what we see in CA with 10 rounds. Reds are free state (I think). Purples are US made IIRC.
      Last edited by code_blue; 07-28-2020, 11:40 PM.
      Classifieds:

      Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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      • #18
        RollingCode3
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3221

        Stay away from Proforce unless you want to take a long nap in your car. I had to wait over 3 hours there last month. No fun.
        Any gun owner who does not support the NRA is a freeloader.

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        • #19
          dtl1986
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2016
          • 44

          Originally posted by code_blue
          As in BOP? BOP CO's are covered under the "any federal law enforcement agency" of PC 32000.

          If you're referring to a CO only position in an SO, you would've had a PC 832 course completed and you would've been covered as a sworn member of the SO.
          Some counties have COs that are not sworn peace officers. I’m assuming this is the case and that’s why he would be eligible for the blue label discount but only for gen 3.

          Taken from PC 831.5

          “ 831.5.
          (a) As used in this section, a custodial officer is a public officer, not a peace officer, who is employed by a law enforcement agency of San Diego County, Fresno County, Kern County, Stanislaus County, Riverside County, Santa Clara County, Napa County, or a county having a population of 425,000 or less who has the authority and responsibility for maintaining custody of prisoners and performs tasks related to the operation of a local detention facility used for the detention of persons usually pending arraignment or upon court order either for their own safekeeping or for the specific purpose of serving a sentence in the local detention facility.”
          Last edited by dtl1986; 07-30-2020, 10:00 AM.

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          • #20
            code_blue
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 3452

            Originally posted by dtl1986
            Some counties have COs that are not sworn peace officers. I’m assuming this is the case and that’s why he would be eligible for the blue label discount but only for gen 3.

            Taken from PC 831.5

            “ 831.5.
            (a) As used in this section, a custodial officer is a public officer, not a peace officer, who is employed by a law enforcement agency of San Diego County, Fresno County, Kern County, Stanislaus County, Riverside County, Santa Clara County, Napa County, or a county having a population of 425,000 or less who has the authority and responsibility for maintaining custody of prisoners and performs tasks related to the operation of a local detention facility used for the detention of persons usually pending arraignment or upon court order either for their own safekeeping or for the specific purpose of serving a sentence in the local detention facility.”

            Yes, I know. I've communicated with him via PM to clear up the situation.

            PC 32000 is a tricky section. The requirement is that the individual is a "sworn" member of the listed agencies. Sworn isn't specifically defined in this section. In B(6), 832 is noted and we know that 832 is the bare min. requirement for "peace officer" status in CA. We also know that the firearms portion is not a requirement for "peace officer" status. The 831.5(c) section notes the 832 requirement for appointment.

            PC 32000 isn't about "peace officer" status or number of hours in POST. We see this as many of the "lesser" peace officers in B(6) have full POST RBC's under their belts. It's about "sworn" status for those agencies meaning CO's of municipal agencies should be OK provided that they completed 832. For an FFL's CYA purpose, it depends on what your ID states.


            Adding more to the mess, I recall that Stanislaus County's CO's won their case regarding LEOSA status to carry. I was told by one of their CO's that they just needed to add the 832 firearms portion to be covered after the case was won. Retired CO's also won their right to carry under LEOSA. This seems to set the precedence that they are "sworn".



            The Court held that a separate statute “expressly provides that custodial deputies of the type considered in the present appeal are peace officers, and it goes on to describe the scope and limitations of the deputies’ authority as peace officers.
            Classifieds:

            Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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            • #21
              Rico911
              Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 232

              I made an appointment and it worked out very well. Appointments are highly recommended.

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              • #22
                BigStiCK
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 3797

                Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought.

                ~Pope John Paul II

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                • #23
                  ghideon
                  Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 403

                  Originally posted by code_blue
                  Not sure I understand that you were LEO but not Peace Officer but limited to Gen 3. Roster exemption isn't solely for CA based peace officers. FLEOs are also exempt.
                  For FLEOs what does the exemption look like? My father retired as a MIL LEO back in 91 when we landed in the SF Bay area, but worked as an FLEO (US Mint Police) for at least 15 years before his 'early' retirement in 2011.

                  Maybe he just hated shooting pistol (he did, actually, he was on the USAFE pistol team, and helped qualify the M9), but I'm curious in about roster exemptions for FLEOs in CA. Is this something you would need a letterhead for?

                  I will ask him, but it's probably something like "they wouldn't approve." But they made him carry on the flights to FLETC in GA as an FLEO in the cheap seats, which he hated.

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                  • #24
                    Hakoomay
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 648

                    Blue label glocks come with 3 standard capacity magazines, correct?
                    Does Proforce swap the 3 SCMs with 3 10 rounders for the non-roster exempt purchasers?

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                    • #25
                      ARDude
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2006
                      • 2723

                      Originally posted by Hakoomay
                      Blue label glocks come with 3 standard capacity magazines, correct?
                      Does Proforce swap the 3 SCMs with 3 10 rounders for the non-roster exempt purchasers?
                      That's what they did for me. Swapped them out while I was filling out forms.
                      Real-life Girls

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                      • #26
                        code_blue
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 3452

                        Originally posted by Hakoomay
                        Blue label glocks come with 3 standard capacity magazines, correct?
                        Does Proforce swap the 3 SCMs with 3 10 rounders for the non-roster exempt purchasers?

                        Glock has specific 10-round versions for restricted states, but I suppose that a shop with a high volume of exempt magazine sales would likely do that.

                        If Duncan goes through, then... Granted, BL is back-logged and supply has not returned to BL vendors. Same on the Springfield IOP side. Springfield won't even take new vendor applications right now.
                        Classifieds:

                        Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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                        • #27
                          YLCA8158
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2020
                          • 14

                          Got a 17 this week on the BLP. Pistol was 3rd gen and hay that was exactly what I wanted. No issues, sweet and easy.

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                          • #28
                            stormvet
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 12681

                            Last two Blue label Glocks I bought were a 41 and 43, the 43 was under $400, really can’t beat it along with an extra mag. Most gun shops sell bL just may have to wait for them to order it.
                            Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                            • #29
                              HKmongoose
                              Member
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 134

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                              • #30
                                ronlglock
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • May 2011
                                • 2670

                                Originally posted by stormvet
                                Most gun shops sell bL just may have to wait for them to order it.
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