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  • #31
    bigger hammer
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 2049

    Originally posted by ShaneB
    Apperently, sound judgement means your current job is more important than your morals.
    This has nothing to do with "morals." It's a commonly known fact, no matter what your job is, that you DO NOT have freedom of speech while you're on the clock. If your boss says, "No political comments while on the job" that's the situation. If you can't accept that then you should not take the position. If you're in the position and think that making a speech is more important than this simply rule, you should FIRST quit and THEN make your presentation. It's dumb to intentionally do something you know that is against policy, and that's what Anderson did.
    And who comes to our aid in times of peril? Sometimes, it is the police or first responders; other times it is healthcare professionals; and sometimes it is family, friends, or neighbors. Sometimes, it is no one."... - U.S. District Judge Stephen McGlynn.

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    • #32
      bigger hammer
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 2049

      Originally posted by Devilock04
      There is a big difference between a Sheriff doing it and an individual Officer or Deputy doing it. The Sheriff is an elected politician who answers to the voters of their county and, with some exceptions, must be voted out of office by the people he/she serves. An Officer or Deputy is an employee of their department and has policies and regulations they must follow. He was basically fired for insubordination for refusing to remove the video, which is a policy violation for all departments that I’m aware of.
      Please stop arguing from a point of reason and logic. This is Calguns OT, and it's not appropriate here.

      Originally posted by Devilock04
      It sucks he was fired, because he had some very valid points, but I think it was a risk he willingly took.
      I agree. He probably knew the potential consequences, but thought so little of his partners and his employer, and the rules he took an oath to obey, he went ahead anyway. All of you folks saying how noble he is, seem to have forgotten that he broke his oath, and you're conveniently ignoring that fact.
      And who comes to our aid in times of peril? Sometimes, it is the police or first responders; other times it is healthcare professionals; and sometimes it is family, friends, or neighbors. Sometimes, it is no one."... - U.S. District Judge Stephen McGlynn.

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      • #33
        jonnyt16
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 1749

        Originally posted by bigger hammer
        I agree. He probably knew the potential consequences, but thought so little of his partners and his employer, and the rules he took an oath to obey, he went ahead anyway. All of you folks saying how noble he is, seem to have forgotten that he broke his oath, and you're conveniently ignoring that fact.
        What is the very first sentence of the oath you swore?

        I honestly don't even know if you're actually serious or just trolling at this point.

        Anyway, I stand by everything I said no matter how much you try to twist it. And I would stand by G. Anderson as well. Really all I have left to offer for this thread. Take care.

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        • #34
          esy
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 1180

          I would wager most would and have said Krapernick can’t complain because his views and opinions are not necessarily believed in or supported by his employer, and his employer has every right to release him which the 49ers did. Future employers have every right not to hire him too which they haven’t.

          Same exact concept.

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          • #35
            esy
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 1180

            Originally posted by jonnyt16
            What is the very first sentence of the oath you swore?

            I honestly don't even know if you're actually serious or just trolling at this point.

            Anyway, I stand by everything I said no matter how much you try to twist it. And I would stand by G. Anderson as well. Really all I have left to offer for this thread. Take care.
            I have no idea what you do for a living, but go ahead and publicly state some of your many beliefs while representing the company. I’d be willing to bet you’ll get disciplined and/or fired pretty quickly. Then you can rant and rave all you like after that.

            You accepted a job and its conditions for working for that employer. You signed that agreement to abide by their rules. Pretty sinple and straight forward.

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            • #36
              bigger hammer
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 2049

              Originally posted by jonnyt16
              What is the very first sentence of the oath you swore?
              Originally posted by jonnyt16
              I honestly don't even know if you're actually serious or just trolling at this point.
              Wow, talk about "trolling." You display a massive lack of knowledge as to how the world works.

              Originally posted by jonnyt16
              Anyway, I stand by everything I said no matter how much you try to twist it.
              I've not twisted anything. Since you pretend that I have, please show it to us. It's odd how often I've been accused of doing this. But what's REALLY ODD is that no one has EVER shown it. Nothing but an accusation without evidence. Lots of that around here.

              You think that the Constitution trumps everything. SCOTUS disagrees and has placed many limitations on how it's interpreted. The Constitution allows them to do that.

              Originally posted by jonnyt16
              And I would stand by G. Anderson as well.
              So while he's on the clock, working for you, it's fine with you if he goes on social media and says that you're an a‒hole and that the products that your company makes sux, or that the service you offer suck? And your reasoning that it's OK is because ‒ the CONSTITUTION? ROFLMFAO

              Originally posted by jonnyt16
              Really all I have left to offer for this thread. Take care.
              So you asked a question but really weren't interested in the answer? I don't blame you for running. Not everyone is cut out to have a logical and reasonable argument. Some want to rely on their feelings to the exclusion of the law and common sense.
              And who comes to our aid in times of peril? Sometimes, it is the police or first responders; other times it is healthcare professionals; and sometimes it is family, friends, or neighbors. Sometimes, it is no one."... - U.S. District Judge Stephen McGlynn.

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