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  • #16
    jonnyt16
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1749

    Originally posted by bigger hammer
    Here's a concept that seems to be foreign to some here. Employers get to tell you what to do, and what not to do, when you're on the clock. This is the case no matter what profession you're in.

    His message would have been just as clear had he waited until he was on his own time, and then made his presentation. AND, he'd probably still have a job.

    There's nothing new in this and I'm confident that he knew the potential consequences of his actions.
    Umm...pretty sure it was the content of that video that cost him his job. If it was a hello message to his wife you think he'd be terminated? Don't be naive.

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    • #17
      bigger hammer
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 2049

      Originally posted by jonnyt16
      Umm...pretty sure it was the content of that video that cost him his job. If it was a hello message to his wife you think he'd be terminated? Don't be naive.
      Off duty, he has freedom of speech. He does not have it when he's on duty.

      Had he sent either video, that he made while on duty, he could have been disciplined.

      Think about taking your own advice.
      And who comes to our aid in times of peril? Sometimes, it is the police or first responders; other times it is healthcare professionals; and sometimes it is family, friends, or neighbors. Sometimes, it is no one."... - U.S. District Judge Stephen McGlynn.

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      • #18
        Shumba
        Member
        • Nov 2006
        • 489

        Originally posted by bigger hammer
        Here's a concept that seems to be foreign to some here. Employers get to tell you what to do, and what not to do, when you're on the clock. This is the case no matter what profession you're in.

        His message would have been just as clear had he waited until he was on his own time, and then made his presentation. AND, he'd probably still have a job.

        There's nothing new in this and I'm confident that he knew the potential consequences of his actions.

        His message received a high level of attention BECAUSE he was in uniform and on duty. Probably a lot less views/shares if it was a guy in his t-shirt in his backyard.

        Agree with you that he most likely knew, or could guess, the consequences of his actions.

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        • #19
          bigger hammer
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 2049

          Originally posted by Shumba
          His message received a high level of attention BECAUSE he was in uniform and on duty. Probably a lot less views/shares if it was a guy in his t-shirt in his backyard.

          Agree with you that he most likely knew, or could guess, the consequences of his actions.
          I don't doubt that being in uniform got him lots of "shares."

          More than likely it's a violation of his department policy to appear in uniform in such a medium without authorization from the Chief's office. Some admins might be concerned with "double dipping" if his site makes any money from clicks.
          And who comes to our aid in times of peril? Sometimes, it is the police or first responders; other times it is healthcare professionals; and sometimes it is family, friends, or neighbors. Sometimes, it is no one."... - U.S. District Judge Stephen McGlynn.

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          • #20
            seal20
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 3081

            OC Sheriff said there same thing. On duty. In uniform.

            Now what?

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            • #21
              Transient
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2020
              • 792

              I've seen several videos of police officers saying this. It's then followed up with another video about how they're being punished for making the video while in uniform.

              In Virginia, the governor just mandated that everybody must wear a mask (ain't done it, not going to do it). I have spoken to several officers from different departments. They all said the same thing. "Our chief/sherriff said not to enforce that stupid order." Trespassing is another issue.

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              • #22
                hunterb
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Jun 2011
                • 3794

                God Bless that Patriot.
                Originally posted by johnthomas
                ...The hardest part getting rid of crap is getting started.

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                • #23
                  bigger hammer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 2049

                  Patriotic? No doubt. But an obvious display of questionable judgment, and good judgment is essential in this ine of work! I wouldn't hire him, what's he going to do next?

                  There's a big difference between sacrificing yourself for the good of the people and doing it foolishly. All he really accomplished is get himself fired, and spawn a few arguments on the Net that will go nowhere. He could have gotten his message out without violating his department's policy and still have a job.

                  I doubt that he he changed many minds, if any. He irritated those who disagree with him and for whom he worked, and further entrenched any who agreed with him. Now he's looking for work. I hope he doesn't have anyone depending on him to bring home the bacon.

                  Just saw video of some LEO's taking a knee in NYC at a protest when there was a reading of names of "the deceased." I didn't get the details, but ONCE AGAIN you don't get to partcipate in political comment, action, or gestures while on duty. It's a violation of policy that has been upheld repeatedly, and it's unprofessional. Want to come down in plain clothes and while off-duty, I'm all for that. But in uniform and on duty, nope.
                  Last edited by bigger hammer; 06-02-2020, 10:25 AM.
                  And who comes to our aid in times of peril? Sometimes, it is the police or first responders; other times it is healthcare professionals; and sometimes it is family, friends, or neighbors. Sometimes, it is no one."... - U.S. District Judge Stephen McGlynn.

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                  • #24
                    tnlrat37
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 2166

                    "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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                    • #25
                      jonnyt16
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1749

                      Originally posted by bigger hammer
                      Patriotic? No doubt. But an obvious display of questionable judgment, and good judgment is essential in this ine of work! I wouldn't hire him, what's he going to do next?
                      Not only would I hire him, I'd be proud to work alongside him. But to each their own.

                      I looked in to his background a little bit. He is the real deal. He's going to be fine regardless if guys like you want to keep him out.

                      Rangers lead the way.

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                      • #26
                        ShaneB
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 534

                        Originally posted by jonnyt16
                        Not only would I hire him, I'd be proud to work alongside him. But to each their own.

                        I looked in to his background a little bit. He is the real deal. He's going to be fine regardless if guys like you want to keep him out.

                        Rangers lead the way.
                        Apperently, sound judgement means your current job is more important than your morals.

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                        • #27
                          Shumba
                          Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 489

                          [QUOTE= Now he's looking for work. I hope he doesn't have anyone depending on him to bring home the bacon.

                          [/QUOTE]

                          I think the $445,000 raised already on his Gofundme.com page will help him transition smoothly to his next career! Maybe claim some COVID-19 unemployment benefits along the way!

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                          • #28
                            Shumba
                            Member
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 489

                            Originally posted by seal20
                            OC Sheriff said there same thing. On duty. In uniform.

                            Now what?
                            Do you have a link to this? Interested to see it.

                            Assume you mean an OCSD Deputy and not the actual Sheriff. Either way, interested in viewing.

                            Thx

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                            • #29
                              Devilock04
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1633

                              Originally posted by seal20
                              OC Sheriff said there same thing. On duty. In uniform.

                              Now what?
                              Loyalty to country, ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, WHEN IT DESERVES IT. - Mark Twain


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                              • #30
                                bigger hammer
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2009
                                • 2049

                                Originally posted by jonnyt16
                                Not only would I hire him, I'd be proud to work alongside him. But to each their own.
                                Sooner or later he'd feel the same way, that his personal feelings override your LEA policy and he'd do it again, or he'd commit some other violation. Based on his actions, he thinks that his agenda is more important than your policies. One minute he's standing on a line, the next, he walks off because he thinks that what's being done to maintain the peace goes against his personal beliefs. He should have realized that this might happen and found some other line of work, where he could express himself whenever he was in the mood.

                                If you think that someone with this mindset, will be a good employee and you want to surround yourself with people who disrespect you and the organization, and who has clearly demonstrated that he will disregard the rules, just because he's a good war fighter, I guess you can. There's a place and time for political expression, but while you're on duty, that ain't it.

                                Originally posted by jonnyt16
                                I looked in to his background a little bit. He is the real deal. He's going to be fine regardless if guys like you want to keep him out.
                                And who comes to our aid in times of peril? Sometimes, it is the police or first responders; other times it is healthcare professionals; and sometimes it is family, friends, or neighbors. Sometimes, it is no one."... - U.S. District Judge Stephen McGlynn.

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