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  • #31
    TrailerparkTrash
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4249

    So much FUD here. “Written certification” is NOT. A letter! You don’t need a “letter.”

    “Written certification” by the “head of the agency” is your police ID. It says right on your I.D., you’re “duly sworn etc....” and is signed by the Chief/Sheriff.

    There’s your “written certification,” meeting the requirements of 30352.

    I know two vendors that just require the I.D. and nothing more.
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    • #32
      gunrun45
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 2018

      I am no longer an LEO. But I am a DOJ certified training entity for their training requirements. I also have a subcontracted training company that also works sometimes at an FFL location up here near Redding (that was started as a LE shop and was a title 2 SOT dealer until last year). I have personally called the DOJ Bureau of Firearms about this issue (DROS dept, not their field investigations which are in a different dept.). We have always been a "cop shop" and will continue to be one until we close.

      DOJ Bureau of Firearms specifically stated that they wanted a letter, just like with a 10 day wait exemption (they actually suggested using it as a template to work from for agencies). I specifically asked about using LE ID's / credentials from peace officers authorized as gun carriers (just like buying non-roster firearms or full capacity mags) and they stated;

      "Even if an officer drives up in uniform in a marked patrol car to buy ammo, they need to either have a letter from their agency or undergo the background check."

      I'm just regurgitating what I was told. Take it for what it is and please know that consistency is NOT one of their greatest strengths these days. As in years past, interpretation changes like the wind in that department and many of us are left guessing. The FFL holds all the liability on this one as they are the ones that can be fined, having their DROS access suspended, etc... Don't be surprised if the dealer is being cautious because they don't want it to be an issue later on when they get their annual audit from DOJ. Its a tough business to be in these days with plenty of political pressure.
      Last edited by gunrun45; 06-12-2020, 11:41 AM.
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      • #33
        REH
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2009
        • 1510

        *Firearms Eligibility Question 4: Is purchaser currently the subject of any restraining order pursuant to Family Code section 6380?

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        • #34
          esy
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 1191

          FFL can almost do what they want with however they choose to interpret the law. For example, a letter is required to purchase an AW. That letter to purchase an AW does not waive the 10 day period (at least mine didn’t). I bought my rifle and took it home with me the same day. That’s how that FFL interpreted that AW letter so more power to them.

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          • #35
            0321 U.S.M.C
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2020
            • 65

            I was also told by DOJ rep. need letter, now I want to preface this with, if you are an LEO you have my respect, and I don’t think a letter should be required, but same as some of you, I have a mortgage, family and bills. It’s my livelihood on the line. If you pull over a car for speeding and it’s the police chiefs wife, do you give her a ticket? no one is above the law correct, but it’s your career on the line, do what you want. We are all just trying to make a living and expand our careers/business.
            I’m also having a hard time trying to figure out what the gripe is, is it the extra dollar, or the couple extra minutes it takes, or just because you are LEO? If it’s the extra dollar I’ll pay it for you if you buy enough boxes, if the extra time, I’m a slow typer so your SOL on that. If it’s because your an LEO and spent a couple weeks in POST learning how to shoot and think your more superior than the former military, competition shooter, or just the plain old Joe, well that I feel sorry for you. Again all you LEO’s out there have my respect and a hard, mostly thankless job to do. I see the how the PC is interpreted two different ways by the community, if you all can’t come to an agreement how are all us ffl’s supposed to interpret it? Just as some of your FTO’s or your department may say “no do it this way, I don’t care how other department do things.”
            Not meant to be a rant just my perspective as a ffl looking at some of the comments on here.
            Anyway stay safe out there.
            Last edited by 0321 U.S.M.C; 06-17-2020, 4:38 AM.

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