Roger that. Like to squash rumors when possible.
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I saw a couple when I was visiting at the BC Range. I know several of the range staff from working patrol with them. This was back in April before they took it off the list.
On another note, have you seen any official training bulletins concerning OLLs by our Department?LASD Retired
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11Z50, I bought a M59 when they first came out and had nothing but problems with mine; it was a jamomatic. It actually shot better with reloads than it did with factory ammo and I'm talking reloads made by another leo.
I finally got rid of it. It is the only gun I have ever sold and I have no regrets.
I was told by the range staff (a sgt.) that it was due to the lack of a safety also. I mentioned the revolver thing too and he just said, "I know."I was told that the main reason LASD won't consider adopting the Glocks is that to break it down for cleaning you have to pull the trigger befroe field stripping. Afraid of A/D's, even though you're supposed to UNLOAD the freaking thing before you do anything else.
Also, when the Glocks first hit the streets, the department was hung up on having a safety on the the gun in case it was taken away from us due to the HiCap mags. Funny, our old wheel guns didn't have safetys. I guess it was OK since you could only get shot with it 6 times instead on 16.
As far as having to pull the trigger to break it down, you have to do the same thing with a XD. I've carried my XD for almost 6yrs. now as a ccw since I've retired and I've not shot myself or anyone else because I always check to ensure that it is empty.
Are they transitioning away from the Beretta 92f/ and fs due to age of the weapons. Mine was issued in Jan. 1990 and I bought it when I retired in 2003. It has never malfunctioned once and is an excellent gun IMO.Comment
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This would make sense since the LASD carry their 92fs with the decocker down like the military. Other agencies like the LAPD carry with the decocker up.11Z50, I bought a M59 when they first came out and had nothing but problems with mine; it was a jamomatic. It actually shot better with reloads than it did with factory ammo and I'm talking reloads made by another leo.
I finally got rid of it. It is the only gun I have ever sold and I have no regrets.
I was told by the range staff (a sgt.) that it was due to the lack of a safety also. I mentioned the revolver thing too and he just said, "I know."
As far as having to pull the trigger to break it down, you have to do the same thing with a XD. I've carried my XD for almost 6yrs. now as a ccw since I've retired and I've not shot myself or anyone else because I always check to ensure that it is empty.
Are they transitioning away from the Beretta 92f/ and fs due to age of the weapons. Mine was issued in Jan. 1990 and I bought it when I retired in 2003. It has never malfunctioned once and is an excellent gun IMO.Comment
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On the M59, I noticed a few were good, but some were very bad. In the late 70's they were pretty good. I still have mine, and it shoots well.
I just got back from a shoot and put another 500 thru my M&P compact 9. Not a problem at all, and very accurate. I have no problems with the M&P line.Comment
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But tryist, as Ron-Solo said and I mentioned, that was illogical since we had been issued the revolver before we switched to the 92f. The only real safety in our S&W Model 15 was our brain. We used revolvers for over 100 years and managed to survive that. IMO, they should have allowed the Glocks and I say that tho I was already retired when they tested them.Comment
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I understand that CHP uses the M&P and heard on a news report that S&W had to change magazines for them on two occasions due to poor performance. Anyone know which M&P they were using?"The Gun is Civilization", Written By Marko Kloos
"The more corrupt the state, the more laws." -Tacitus, Publius Cornelius
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^^ last I heard, they aren't using the m&p. They're using the traditional metal models. 4006TSWsigpicComment
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"The Gun is Civilization", Written By Marko Kloos
"The more corrupt the state, the more laws." -Tacitus, Publius Cornelius
"Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum."Comment
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