M&P 9mm reported problems

[trapshot68]

or approve the p250

Hopefully this full situation gets resolved. Lots of my friends are interested in the pistol but held off with the Teletype

[Ron-Solo]

or approve the p250

Hopefully this full situation gets resolved. Lots of my friends are interested in the pistol but held off with the Teletype

My bet is that the P250 will be approved soon since it is very much like the HK P2000 concerning the trigger style and such. I shot it recently as part of the test. I really liked it too.

Supposedly S&W is all over the corrective action. Word is that the M&P will be back on the list soon.

I want one of each.............

[trapshot68]

That was one thing I never got.

If the Dept approves the p2k/p2sk, approved (currently hold) the MP9 and is testing the p250, why isn't the Glock being considered? Especially with OPS merging in?

[Jonathan Doe]

I know the LASD approved P2000 and P2000 SK model. MP is un authorized, P250 in testing. Glock? I guess many people don't care for it.

[5shot]

That was one thing I never got.

If the Dept approves the p2k/p2sk, approved (currently hold) the MP9 and is testing the p250, why isn't the Glock being considered? Especially with OPS merging in?

When Glocks first became popular with law enforcement, some departments (Orange County S.O. being one) wouldn't approve them because the polygonal barrel made matching of bullets to individual handguns impossible. At least at that time.
This may or may not be the reason LASO never adopted Glocks.

[Ron-Solo]

I was told that the main reason LASD won't consider adopting the Glocks is that to break it down for cleaning you have to pull the trigger befroe field stripping. Afraid of A/D's, even though you're supposed to UNLOAD the freaking thing before you do anything else.

Also, when the Glocks first hit the streets, the department was hung up on having a safety on the the gun in case it was taken away from us due to the HiCap mags. Funny, our old wheel guns didn't have safetys. I guess it was OK since you could only get shot with it 6 times instead on 16.

[trendar5]

San Jose PD just adopted a policy that any Glock on the range must be broken down in two pieces before it comes off the line, and then taken to the bench for cleaning.

[kalguns]

San Jose PD just adopted a policy that any Glock on the range must be broken down in two pieces before it comes off the line, and then taken to the bench for cleaning.

Why would that be necessary?

[Ron-Solo]

Why would that be necessary?

This is just a guess, but see post #36.

[coop44]

Give me a S&W revolver any time, or a 1911, or a hipower, Melt down all plastic guns and make em into kitchen storage containers. Never liked em never will. No class, No craft, No skill required to manufacture em. Just pump out the parts and slap em together.

[Jonathan Doe]

I think, after checking out the pistol, the M&P that broke the barrel in half has more of the metallurgical problem than anything in my opinion. But, I am not a metal engineer, and the factory has to say that I guess.

[trendar5]

Post #36 indeed. Maybe they thought it was a snap cap in the chamber...

[Ron-Solo]

I think, after checking out the pistol, the M&P that broke the barrel in half has more of the metallurgical problem than anything in my opinion. But, I am not a metal engineer, and the factory has to say that I guess.

Top,

Did you actually get to examine the barrel? One rumor is the owner did some "polishing" in the chamber and messed up the barrel. Not familiar with polishing or if this is possible. Can you shed some light on it? Beyond my level of expertise.

Ron

[Ron-Solo]

Post #36 indeed. Maybe they thought it was a snap cap in the chamber...

Well, after having one of our 'contract' security officers A/D in the locker room, it just shows that despite any training we can give, you can't train the stupid out of some people.

[Jonathan Doe]

Top,

Did you actually get to examine the barrel? One rumor is the owner did some "polishing" in the chamber and messed up the barrel. Not familiar with polishing or if this is possible. Can you shed some light on it? Beyond my level of expertise.

Ron

When I examined the barrel, it appeared that the polishing had nothing to do with the failure. And, I didn't even realize that the polishing was done, if in fact it was done. Like I mentioned earlier, it looked to me the failure was caused by the metal problem than anything else. When I check the ammo, it was within the SAAMI spec on dimensions, although I haven't fired it. And, I don't have ability for pressure testing.