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  • klikoman
    Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 168

    LEO ar pistol built

    LEO here. Buddy of mine from the department just built a ar pistol. Now i didnt know we are exempt from buying a stripped lower ar so i went and got myself one from my LGS. now question i have, he said i would need a maglock to comply with cali law. So can i used a maglock like the one used from a rifle? Ar maglock, Juggernaut etc. And if so is there anything else to do to make it compliance beside maglock?
    Last edited by klikoman; 02-02-2020, 11:40 AM.
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    Master_Prestige
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2019
    • 1016

    Pistol brace and no VFG depending on barrel length
    Last edited by Master_Prestige; 02-01-2020, 12:39 PM.

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    • #3
      edgerly779
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2009
      • 19871

      yes you can buy a stripped lower but what was it drosed as. must be pistol.?

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      • #4
        klikoman
        Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 168

        Drosd as a pistol handgun category. Thanks.

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        • #5
          klikoman
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 168

          Originally posted by edgerly779
          yes you can buy a stripped lower but what was it drosed as. must be pistol.?
          Drosed as a pistol, category handgun. Can i just buy the PSA pistol kit and slap that and install a juggernaut kit. Thanks.

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          • #6
            waygeekierthanu
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Sep 2010
            • 2724

            Originally posted by klikoman
            Drosed as a pistol, category handgun. Can i just buy the PSA pistol kit and slap that and install a juggernaut kit. Thanks.
            Yes you can

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            • #7
              Frosty_rt_
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2020
              • 37

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              • #8
                klikoman
                Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 168

                Cool thanks guys. The maglock is no problem for me its basically just going to be a collection gun.

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                • #9
                  dvs762
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1790

                  I really dont know how he did that. DOJ has specifically told me no to building an AR pistol on a AR lower even for LEO. Ive been told dros all lowers as rifles. Even maglocked...otherwise there would be tons of LEO's making these and selling them PPT just like they do with G5 Glocks...even thou they are not supposed to...
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                  • #10
                    SarcoBlaster
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1775

                    Originally posted by dvs762
                    I really dont know how he did that. DOJ has specifically told me no to building an AR pistol on a AR lower even for LEO. Ive been told dros all lowers as rifles. Even maglocked...otherwise there would be tons of LEO's making these and selling them PPT just like they do with G5 Glocks...even thou they are not supposed to...
                    You should seriously consider filing a complaint against whoever you talked to at the DOJ because the amount of misinformation they gave you is astounding.
                    My buyer/seller feedback.

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                    • #11
                      Quiet
                      retired Goon
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 30242

                      Originally posted by klikoman
                      Drosed as a pistol, category handgun. Can i just buy the PSA pistol kit and slap that and install a juggernaut kit. Thanks.
                      Yes.

                      Originally posted by klikoman
                      And if so is there anything else to do to make it compliance beside maglock?
                      Other things to keep in mind...

                      Legally you can only use 10 or less round magazines in it.
                      If you use a 11+ round magazine in it, then you will have made an assault weapon. [PC 30515(a)(5)]

                      If the overall length is less than 26", then it can not have a vertical forward grip attached to it.
                      If it does and you do not have BATFE approval to do so, then you will have made an illegal Title 2 AOW.
                      ^Per BATFE, in order to measure the overall length to determine if a firearm is a Title 1 Handgun or Title 1 Other or Title 2 AOW, the firearm is measured in the shortest possible firing configuration (arm stablizing brace is removed or folded/collapsed if it permanently attached).

                      Do not attach a shoulder stock to it.
                      If you do so, then you will have made an illegal Title 2 SBR.
                      Last edited by Quiet; 02-01-2020, 11:02 PM.
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                      • #12
                        klikoman
                        Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 168

                        Originally posted by dvs762
                        I really dont know how he did that. DOJ has specifically told me no to building an AR pistol on a AR lower even for LEO. Ive been told dros all lowers as rifles. Even maglocked...otherwise there would be tons of LEO's making these and selling them PPT just like they do with G5 Glocks...even thou they are not supposed to...
                        Most leos wont sell their pistol built ar.

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                        • #13
                          edgerly779
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 19871

                          put a real upper on it. Mine is 6.8spc.

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                          • #14
                            klikoman
                            Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 168

                            Originally posted by edgerly779
                            put a real upper on it. Mine is 6.8spc.
                            Any suggestion or link? For a upper.

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                            • #15
                              fal_762x51
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 2728

                              So,can it be any lower DROS'd as a pistol or does it have to be shipped/marked "pistol" only from a supplier?
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