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  • glockhead
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 27

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    Last edited by glockhead; 01-06-2022, 2:05 AM.
  • #2
    Milsurp1
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2016
    • 3091

    Get a letter from your department authorizing purchase of AW and buy your own rifle.

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    • #3
      NORCAL#1
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 678

      You can legally run standard capacity magazine in your featureless rifle

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      • #4
        ugimports
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Jun 2009
        • 6251

        Buy a complete lower with standard magazine release
        Buy a complete upper
        Assemble out of state
        Disassemble before coming back
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        • #5
          9mmrevolver
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2006
          • 1477

          You said off duty you use a department issue gun? If it’s department issued why is it featureless?

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          • #6
            ldsnet
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 1427

            I have 2 lowers. One configured featureless with a 5.56 upper. The 2nd has a dedicated .22 rimfire upper with standard mag release, pistol grip and stock. When I get out of state to shoot, I swap uppers.

            That way, the only thing missing is a flash hider (instead of the thread protector that usually resides on the end of my barrels.

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            • #7
              GiveMeMo2A
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 49

              Some people registered their AW, and so, they just take their AW to the range. Some people bought during freedom week, so, they just take their 30 round mags to the range. If you didn't, well, that's what friends are for. You can shoot theirs, assuming you are not a convicted felon and such. If you go this route, do ensure you know all the relevant laws, for RAW/BBRAW you want to ensure you and they are up on all the little details if you go this route. 33660 B is your friend for example. Do note, without an exemption to 30605, 30605 would not be your friend for example. This isn't the only one you have to be careful about.

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              • #8
                tradecraft
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 4630

                People don't give a chit about your setup at intermediate/advanced classes.
                Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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                • #9
                  IrishJoe3
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 3804

                  Originally posted by glockhead
                  Sorry if I wasn’t clear. When I’m on duty I use a dept gun that is featureless. When I’m off duty I fall under AW laws like everyone else. My dept won’t issue me a letter to buy my own AW. I figured I could just keep my AR in two pieces until I’m in a free state then assemble it, train, unassemble it, drive home.

                  I guess what I’m looking for is a reputable place to go. Thanks for all the replies.
                  Wait. Your duty rifle is featureless?! Whats your patrol rifle, a mini 14?

                  For me, I will use a .22LR AR to train with, or with a featureless or registered BB AW the best I can. Or borrow a dept rifle if I can.
                  Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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                  • #10
                    esy
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 1197

                    This is confusing.

                    Are you a full time sworn 830.1 peace officer?

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                    • #11
                      ARFrog
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 1293

                      The OP is asking where he might train out of state. How about:

                      - Front Sight

                      - Gunsite



                      Edit - thanks for the change to Senior Member with this post. I now feel so old and mature
                      Last edited by ARFrog; 12-14-2019, 9:48 AM.
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                      • #12
                        phroggunner
                        Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 225

                        In your situation, I would build/buy a featureless gun with a thorsden stock or grip fin. Sure it will be a little different, but the manual of arms is still the same.

                        You can buy and own 30 round mags, so do that too.

                        No incrimination required.

                        Look around for other departments that offer rifle courses. If your department approves the training, then I'm sure you can check out a gun or use one from the agency providing the training.
                        Last edited by phroggunner; 12-14-2019, 11:21 AM. Reason: Typo

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                        • #13
                          1911su16b870
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 7654

                          Having been in a similar situation, speak to and get approval from your supervisor/range supervisor (or whoever is in charge) to borrow a dept. rifle. After all, most pro-police officer departments encourage officers to get training above and beyond "qualifications"/skill builders.

                          Most folks at training or competitions will not care or investigate a sworn officers carbine/rifle during said event.
                          "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

                          NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
                          GLOCK (Gen 1-5, G42/43), Colt AR15/M16/M4, Sig P320, Sig P365, Beretta 90 series, Remington 870, HK UMP Factory Armorer
                          Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
                          I instruct it if you shoot it.

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                          • #14
                            1911su16b870
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 7654

                            Originally posted by GiveMeMo2A
                            Some people registered their AW, and so, they just take their AW to the range. Some people bought during freedom week, so, they just take their 30 round mags to the range. If you didn't, well, that's what friends are for. You can shoot theirs, assuming you are not a convicted felon and such. If you go this route, do ensure you know all the relevant laws, for RAW/BBRAW you want to ensure you and they are up on all the little details if you go this route. 33660 B is your friend for example. Do note, without an exemption to 30605, 30605 would not be your friend for example. This isn't the only one you have to be careful about.
                            30660 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...0.&lawCode=PEN
                            "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

                            NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
                            GLOCK (Gen 1-5, G42/43), Colt AR15/M16/M4, Sig P320, Sig P365, Beretta 90 series, Remington 870, HK UMP Factory Armorer
                            Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
                            I instruct it if you shoot it.

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                            • #15
                              esy
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 1197

                              Originally posted by 1911su16b870
                              Having been in a similar situation, speak to and get approval from your supervisor/range supervisor (or whoever is in charge) to borrow a dept. rifle. After all, most pro-police officer departments encourage officers to get training above and beyond "qualifications"/skill builders.

                              Most folks at training or competitions will not care or investigate a sworn officers carbine/rifle during said event.

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