Start using a lanyard for duty pistol?

[barncat]

While reading about the Victorville Sheriff shooting incident on Facebook, a military veteran (not me) asked why don’t LEOs use a lanyard to retain their duty pistols? He used one with his Beretta M9 pistol overseas.

I could not argue his point.

Anyone?

[jarhead714]

I’m not a policeman but it seems like hopping fences and struggling with lunatics is a good way to get that lanyard hung up on something or perhaps even choked with it. I think the military had them as more of a “dummy cord” so you don’t lose it.

[barncat]

Good points, thank you.

[Ron-Solo]

The military doesn’t generally wrestle with suspects, unless they are MPs, etc.

Too much of a hazard catching on things in a chase, makes available a way for a bad guy to pull you off balance, etc.

why increase these hazards?

Most LEAs practice weapons retention in the academy, and my stations all practiced it on training days.

[wpage]

Old time cavalry men used them so they would not have to dismount if pistol was upholsterer.

If you are a horse leo it may be worth looking into.

[IrishJoe3]

The military had some weird traditions, that being one of them. I think a lanyard would be a liability and prone to snag on something or get wrapped around something on your duty belt and prevent you from drawing down on a threat

[P5Ret]

As many time's as the cord for my radio mic got hung up on something, adding more crap to snag, or for someone to grab onto is a bad idea.

[barncat]

Thank you for the answers, enlightening.

[tomk556]

So I like my M9 on one of those bungy lanyards in the field, but I don't think I would want anything like that if I was LE. The lanyard in the field is nice because you're living with your weapon in the field day in and day out; maybe the retention on your holster takes a crap and then every time you're moving cases out of a truck or something the weapon wants to fall out, etc. etc. Likewise, the chances I ever need to draw quickly and deliver some good hits is low when I'm surrounded by gun trucks and kids with M4s, so I can prioritize retention over speed.

[1911su16b870]

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=B66T_1567628936

I think the above video is what the thread is about. Hopefully the SBSD will debrief this and put a bulletin out with an AAR. Fantastic that no deputies were shot as a result of the gun take-away.

Right now I am thinking presumed compliance/complacency - e.g. allowing the guy to get too close, more weapon retention training, where was the violent-immediate action, why did the responding unit drive right up to the guy with the gun.

[cannon]

I'd imagine it would be like the old Sam Browne belts and shoulder loop.

An easy thing to grab and use to upset the officers balance.

[socom308]

Use a safariland ALS/SLS and don't be ****ty at close quarters/unarmed combat. Spend more time training on the mat/in the gym than posing for instagram. Problem solved.

[Milsurp1]

[micro911]

I saw our SWAT guys use them. Personally, I would not use it. In and out of patrol car could be a painful experience.

[Mwjakel15]