SF Bay Area LEO's

[smokingloon]

Yup, I was taking a photo class at the time. Figured rioting like that happened only every 20-30 years. So grabbed my camera and went along to witness history.

Have a problem with that?

Do you still have any of the photos? Care to post them?

[gotgunz]

Sometimes I wonder if Oakland burning is really that bad of an idea....

Think of the redevelopment opportunities.

I was thinking the very same thing...

[50 Freak]

Do you still have any of the photos? Care to post them?

Nah, the ones I took came out too dark (guess I wasn't in class the day they spoke about proper lighting). Then when I was loading the camera with new film. Was sitting in front of the US District Court watching the rioters try to overturn a school bus. Tear gas cannisters came flying down the street, so I loaded my camera with my eyes tearing up and half closed. Took pics the rest of the night to find out the film never caught on to the spool. No photos...just memories.

Finally left the riot when we were going down Broadway and the rioters looted a knife store there (same one OJ bought his famous knife by the way). Anyways, when I saw some dude standing on top of a RX-7 being driven down the street. He's wearing a viking cap complete with horns and and waving a Roman Gladius sword....figured that was the signal that I needed to leave....

[Mason McDuffie]

This thread was actually pretty helpful. I havent thought about the repercussions of this trial in a broader scope. I live in a quiet suburb, but I could just see them coming over the hill like rampaging criminals. Its honestly a very scary thought. I should probably bring that up at the next home owners meeting.

[Mason McDuffie]

The logistics running through my head right now are crazy. I have alot of older people in my neighborhood that are gonna need help as well.

[norcal77]

My hope is the officer is not convicted of any crime, as I believe it was a training issue. We have come a long way since Rodney King, I just hope we have come far enough that we do not have to sacrifice any more officers to appease public opinion.

The guy made a mistake with somebodies life...he should pay the price and be convicted. Does that mean the person training him should be liable? Chalking it up as an innocent mistake is absolutely unacceptable.

[Stormfeather]

Yes, but we are way past that now. . .a mistake was made, we all know that. Now we come to the judgement phase of it, and im more worried about the punishment phase of it, hence this thread.

[Ron-Solo]

The guy made a mistake with somebodies life...he should pay the price and be convicted. Does that mean the person training him should be liable? Chalking it up as an innocent mistake is absolutely unacceptable.

You've obviously never been in a true "life or death" situation. Do you believe it's possible to shoot a knife out of the hand of a running suspect at 100 yards with a 2 inch revolver?

There are civil remedies when the training is flawed, which is the proper forum to address the issue.

Rioting when you don't get your way is the scumbag thing to do.

[Turbinator]

Sometimes I wonder if Oakland burning is really that bad of an idea....

Well, we'd better go in and save Oaklander first...!

Turby

[50 Freak]

You've obviously never been in a true "life or death" situation. Do you believe it's possible to shoot a knife out of the hand of a running suspect at 100 yards with a 2 inch revolver?

There are civil remedies when the training is flawed, which is the proper forum to address the issue.

Rioting when you don't get your way is the scumbag thing to do.

Have you? If I remember correctly the "perp" was on his stomach with his hands handcuffed behind his back when he was shot IN THE BACK. I don't think we "sacrificed any officers". More like me made the officer in question responsible for his actions.

Just ask yourself. If a civilian did the same thing, would we even discussing this? An LE is no better or worse than his "employers". ( yes the public is his employers)

[cousinkix1953]

Aren't weak leaders the biggest problem in San Francisco, Oakland and Berkeley? Those ultra-liberal politicians would disarm their police departments, if they could get away with it. I can already see investigations, hearings and even trials, for the LEOs who stop the riots...

[Ishoot]

Sad turn of events. I feel bad for both the deceased and the officer whose life is ruined because of "lack of training". Either way the verdict goes, the scumbags will find a way to be unhappy and riot anyway. Sucks that any issue that involves people of different racial background becomes a racial issue. I often wonder how things would've turned out if the officer was black and the deceased was white......

[cousinkix1953]

Nutcases rioted in San Francisco after the police shot a teenager - in Athens Greece last year. They are almost guaranteed to cause trouble over this BART police officer's trial...