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Breaking any laws in a County, City, or State may and probably will cause some issues for you. -
1. Why would your vehicle be searched unless there was reason to believe that criminal activity was present?
2. If you're transporting the firearm in accordance with the law, what crime have you committed warranting an arrest?
3. What is the real reason behind this question?Comment
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1. Why would your vehicle be searched unless there was reason to believe that criminal activity was present?
2. If you're transporting the firearm in accordance with the law, what crime have you committed warranting an arrest?
3. What is the real reason behind this question?Comment
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With exception to very specific circumstances, it is an arrestable misdemeanor to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. In some circumstances a felony. You would no longer be a law abiding citizen if you were to knowingly commit the crime, now would you?
If you are asking if any LEO would blanket, "let it slide", it is unreasonable to ask that question or expect any LEO to give you leniency. LEO's don't know who you are and what you are up to.
The laws in CA are as "real" as your existence. They were passed through official means and fully enforceable. If you violate any laws, be prepared to face the full consequences of your decisions.Comment
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Thank you for your answers...i appreciate the time taken to respond!With exception to very specific circumstances, it is an arrestable misdemeanor to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. In some circumstances a felony. You would no longer be a law abiding citizen if you were to knowingly commit the crime, now would you?
If you are asking if any LEO would blanket, "let it slide", it is unreasonable to ask that question or expect any LEO to give you leniency. LEO's don't know who you are and what you are up to.
The laws in CA are as "real" as your existence. They were passed through official means and fully enforceable. If you violate any laws, be prepared to face the full consequences of your decisions.Comment
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With exception to very specific circumstances, it is an arrestable misdemeanor to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. In some circumstances a felony. You would no longer be a law abiding citizen if you were to knowingly commit the crime, now would you?
If you are asking if any LEO would blanket, "let it slide", it is unreasonable to ask that question or expect any LEO to give you leniency. LEO's don't know who you are and what you are up to.
The laws in CA are as "real" as your existence. They were passed through official means and fully enforceable. If you violate any laws, be prepared to face the full consequences of your decisions.
I was always under the impression that the constitution was the supreme law of the land in the US. I was also told that police officers were sworn to uphold the us constitution and are on the side of the citizen.
Its hard to believe the cops are on our side if they arrest citizens who abide by the supreme law if the land. If they would arrest a citizen on something as small as possessing a firearm, why would anybody think theyd be on our side if another revolution were to occur?
Also, "shall not be infringed" and all that jazz.Comment
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The bad part is neither you, or I, have any say in what is and what is not Constitutional. We do have a bit of discretion on enforcement of law's that don't reach the felony level. However even when that discretion kicks it it's more about the circumstances than then any belief that the law is unconstitutional for me.Comment
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I was always under the impression that the constitution was the supreme law of the land in the US. I was also told that police officers were sworn to uphold the us constitution and are on the side of the citizen.
Its hard to believe the cops are on our side if they arrest citizens who abide by the supreme law if the land. If they would arrest a citizen on something as small as possessing a firearm, why would anybody think theyd be on our side if another revolution were to occur?
Also, "shall not be infringed" and all that jazz.
There is a legal recourse process for overturning laws. Until there is a test case that goes up to a higher authority to be ruled upon, it remains as law and can be enforced.
What you are referring as the Supreme Law of the Land is SCOTUS. What they rule on is final and can only be overturned by another SCOTUS decision. Until a California case specific to concealed carry without a permit gets on the SCOTUS docket (if it even passes the CA Supreme Court or even gets on the SCOTUS docket), it remains illegal.
Also, "we don't have to agree with the law, but we have to abide" and all that jazz.Comment
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I can’t speak on whether or not I, or any other LEOs would arrest/not arrest given the vague circumstances provided.
On the part of constitutional or not, while I support the 2nd Amendment, it does not state the right of a person to carry concealed. I’d love for it to and for any non-sworn personnel to have the same rights and such that sworn personnel do. That’s above our pay grade though.
Preaching to the choir.Comment
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I’d suggest knowing what you’re talking about when making such broad, backhanded and snide remarks.I was always under the impression that the constitution was the supreme law of the land in the US. I was also told that police officers were sworn to uphold the us constitution and are on the side of the citizen.
Its hard to believe the cops are on our side if they arrest citizens who abide by the supreme law if the land. If they would arrest a citizen on something as small as possessing a firearm, why would anybody think theyd be on our side if another revolution were to occur?
Also, "shall not be infringed" and all that jazz.
No citizen will get arrested for possession of a firearm unless they are a prohibited person, carrying concealed without a valid permit, etc., etc. The list goes on.Comment
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Wow ...hey Wyatt Earp wouldn't let you carry in tombstone.I was always under the impression that the constitution was the supreme law of the land in the US. I was also told that police officers were sworn to uphold the us constitution and are on the side of the citizen.
Its hard to believe the cops are on our side if they arrest citizens who abide by the supreme law if the land. If they would arrest a citizen on something as small as possessing a firearm, why would anybody think theyd be on our side if another revolution were to occur?
Also, "shall not be infringed" and all that jazz.I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.Comment
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You would be violating the law while fully aware that you are doing so. Don’t expect any leniency. As a matter of fact, I would be very concerned for you if an Leo suddenly saw your pistol printing or saw it slide out into view. It’s just asking for serious trouble.
Carrying a concealed firearm on your person and not informing a Leo of that at a traffic stop AND waiting to be searched to do an oh by the way is going to get the book thrown at you...and that’s if you don’t get one or two popped into your *** for being so stupid.Last edited by BarrettM99; 06-25-2018, 6:52 PM.sigpicComment
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