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  • Bunyfofu69
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    • Feb 2006
    • 168

    Calif. Change from Reasonable to Nessecary Force

    Change coming on use of force?

    According to the press conference, an example is not to engage, and wait for backup, or to not provoke a suspect into fleeing, should he be hit by a car, the LEO will be held liable.

    What kind of effect will this have on active enforcement?



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    Last edited by Bunyfofu69; 04-03-2018, 2:12 PM.
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    Rover60
    Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 149

    Allow the scum to run-amuck


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    • #3
      esy
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 1191

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      • #4
        terry4130
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 635

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        • #5
          IrishJoe3
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 3804

          This state is a train wreck
          Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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          • #6
            ape1nope
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 37

            Its very problematic. It wouldn't solve what happened in Sac nor would it prevent similar events. The pursuing officers believed the suspect had a gun (or saw what they thought was a gun). If an officer believes an individual has a firearm, responding with gunfire IS "necessary force." If it turns out that individual only had a cell phone, its unfortunate. But if I'm faced with what I believe is a gun pointed at me, the force I respond with is going to be what I perceive as necessary...

            Changing the use of deadly force from "reasonable" to "necessary" doesn't make an LEO's job easier. And holding officer's criminally liable for any force deemed "not necessary" is backwards. And nevermind the thousands who are killed by criminals each year, its the cops we have to worry about

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            • #7
              MJB
              CGSSA Associate
              • Sep 2010
              • 5925

              I wish the internet would crash for a few days......
              One life so don't blow it......Always die with your boots on!

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              • #8
                tnlrat37
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 2166

                "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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                • #9
                  Doheny
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                  • Sep 2008
                  • 13820

                  SacBee: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-...207741689.html


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                  • #10
                    haodoken
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 516

                    We'll have to first try to talk them down, next use less-lethal, and hope they don't gun us down. Then after exhausting all other means, maybe we'll get to shoot back. Maybe.
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                    • #11
                      SoCalDep
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 815

                      Two words...

                      Broward County.

                      You get what you ask for California. How many kids are gonna die?

                      Sounds dramatic? Last count as of a couple months ago was 17 while a bunch of cops waited for backup. 17 kids who will never come home to their parents. It's unacceptable and despicable, but much of California seems to think it's the way cops should do business. If this passes people will die because of it. That said, it's never stopped the government of CA before.

                      While we watch a country be guided so expertly into anger over assault weapons (because 17 is too many, but hey... we're not after your guns... 15 is okay with a handgun. Or maybe that's too much so 6 is okay with a revolver. Wait... We're okay with one dead child because it was a muzzle loader...) we're ignoring the fact that the Parkland shooter could have been stopped before he started. He could have been stopped during his rampage.

                      Yet we ignore because it doesn't fit the agenda.

                      Anyone who wants to ban assault weapons is eventually going to want to ban semi auto rifles, handguns, revolvers, muzzle-loaders, sharp knives, pointy sticks, rocks, and mean attitudes... Or they are ok with people dying because they don't want to solve the problem... they just want "the problem" to not be so bad.

                      Interesting times.

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                      • #12
                        Librarian
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                        • Oct 2005
                        • 44661

                        What I'd really like to see is the actual text.

                        I've just spent half an hour reading assorted articles that mention "Police Accountability and Community Protection Act".

                        It's past time for new bills to be introduced, so this has to be a gut and amend of an existing bill. But none of the articles bothers to mention the bill number. Introduced today, the actual text won't be officially available until later in the week.
                        ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                        Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                          TrailerparkTrash
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                          • Oct 2005
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                          • #14
                            Samuelx
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1558

                            stupid assh people!!!!!!
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                            • #15
                              Endless
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 1881

                              Originally posted by IrishJoe3
                              This state is a train wreck

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