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  • rvr350
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 716

    Ffl transfer with "high cap" magazine

    Asking as a leo. If i acquire an off roster pistol that comes with 10+ rd mag, can i receive it at my local ffl when i dros it? I was told the ffl needs to do a safety demo and require a mag to do that. So if i cant legally have the 10+ rd mag, i guess its no go. Any advice appreciated.
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    SVT-40
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    • Jan 2008
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    If you are a LEO, then whats the issue?
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    • #3
      rvr350
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 716

      Can i still dros with a pistol that comes with 10+ rd mag? Cuz when i bought my blue label glock, they swapped out all the mag... Just wonder if its a glock thing, or a legal requirement

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      • #4
        003
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        • Jul 2010
        • 3436

        As SVT-40 asked, “what’s the issue”? Active LEO’s in California can legally import, buy and possess new high capacity magazines. Based on your original and follow up post, I do not understand what issue you are seeking to address. LEO's can buy off roster guns as well as high capacity magazines. Why would you not be able to DROS a gun with high capacity magazines included?

        Are you in fact a California LEO covered by section 830 of the California Penal code?
        Last edited by 003; 03-01-2017, 11:20 AM.

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        • #5
          solipsism
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          • Feb 2013
          • 1332

          As long as your FFL has the large capacity mag permit it should be fine if you are in fact a peace officer as defined by 830 PC.

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          • #6
            69Mach1
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            • Jan 2006
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            My shop does that all of the time with LEO's. Non issue.
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            • #7
              rvr350
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              • Aug 2013
              • 716

              When I bought my new blue label discounted Glock from a lgs, they said they don't come with the hi-cap mag (they switched all 3 mags to 10-rounders) but I don't recall why. That's why I ask the question if it has something to do with Glock's blue label program, or is it a state law. I have my answer now, thank you.

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              • #8
                003
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                • Jul 2010
                • 3436

                If the gun store switched out the high capacity magazines for 10 rounders, you got ripped off. No reason for them to do that under California or Federal law, unless they do not have a high capacity permit from California.

                If it were me, I would go back and pointedly ask them why.

                The above is assuming you are an active California LEO identified under 830 PC.
                Last edited by 003; 03-01-2017, 2:44 PM.

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                • #9
                  rvr350
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                  • Aug 2013
                  • 716

                  Yes. I am a badged deputy working under dhs. I don't purchase many firearms so pardon my ignorance. I assume if the lgs allows me to purchase the blue label, that means i am leo.

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                    69Mach1
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                    • Jan 2006
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                    Unless the gun shop has no high cap license.
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                    • #11
                      rauldelga
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                      • Feb 2017
                      • 155

                      You should ask in the FFL forum. You'll likely get answers from FFL owners.

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                      • #12
                        mej16489
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                        • Aug 2008
                        • 2714

                        Originally posted by rvr350
                        Yes. I am a badged deputy working under dhs. I don't purchase many firearms so pardon my ignorance. I assume if the lgs allows me to purchase the blue label, that means i am leo.
                        DHS is not equal to California LEO (PC830, etc)

                        I think a Federal LEO (which I presume DHS qualifies) is Roster Exempt, but not Large-Cap Mag Exempt (for purchase) ... or something along those lines.

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                        • #13
                          sdsu619
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                          • May 2016
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                          Originally posted by mej16489
                          DHS is not equal to California LEO (PC830, etc)



                          I think a Federal LEO (which I presume DHS qualifies) is Roster Exempt, but not Large-Cap Mag Exempt (for purchase) ... or something along those lines.

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                          • #14
                            ArtSki
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                            • Aug 2009
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                            Originally posted by mej16489
                            DHS is not equal to California LEO (PC830, etc)

                            I think a Federal LEO (which I presume DHS qualifies) is Roster Exempt, but not Large-Cap Mag Exempt (for purchase) ... or something along those lines.

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                              Originally posted by rvr350
                              Yes. I am a badged deputy working under dhs. I don't purchase many firearms so pardon my ignorance. I assume if the lgs allows me to purchase the blue label, that means i am leo.
                              Deputy What? Makes a huge difference. A Deputy US Marshal would qualify.

                              DHS? Department of Homeland Security? Department of Hospital Services (a state agency)

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                              Something's not clear here....
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