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  • Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2015
    • 6504

    Title 22?

    I had an interview for a correctional position with a local county sheriff's department, and the last question they asked me was:
    The board: "What is your understanding of Title 22?"
    I responded: "I'm not familiar with Title 22, what does it pertain to?"
    The board responds: "We don't know either.. We don't know why that question is on our paper."
    I responded: "Okay.."

    So what is Title 22??
    Edit: I looked up Title 22 and there are so many title 22's that it is impossible to know which one they were referring to.
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    417atty
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    • Mar 2012
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    • #3
      Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
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      • Dec 2015
      • 6504

      Originally posted by 417atty
      It's most likely related to first aid and CPR training. Did you hold yourself out as a certified law enforcement instructor?

      https://www.post.ca.gov/Data/Sites/1...strikeouts.pdf
      No, I didn't at all.

      It's so weird though, why would they ask me about it and then say that they don't even know what it is?

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      • #4
        Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
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        • Dec 2015
        • 6504

        Originally posted by 417atty
        It's most likely related to first aid and CPR training. Did you hold yourself out as a certified law enforcement instructor?

        https://www.post.ca.gov/Data/Sites/1...strikeouts.pdf
        That makes sense though now that I look at your link.

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        • #5
          sealocan
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2012
          • 9953

          They were trying to trick you to giving a BS political answer...


          "Sir, My understanding of Title 22 is that it is a cornerstone of the building block that is Title 23 and is definitely assisting in stabilizing Title 21.
          Title 22 is the best, of the best, of the best Titles, Sir! "

          If you answered like that they would've known you were destined for the upper echelon of public employment.

          (Which of course if that's where they're aiming to be,
          you wouldn't of been hired.)



          It's either that or they printed up their questionnaire from a form they found on the Internet and are basically clueless which makes them absolutely destined to achieve the upper echelon of public employment.

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          • #6
            Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
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            • Dec 2015
            • 6504

            Originally posted by sealocan
            They were trying to trick you to giving a BS political answer...


            "Sir, My understanding of Title 22 is that it is a cornerstone of the building block that is Title 23 and is definitely assisting in stabilizing Title 21.
            Title 22 is the best, of the best, of the best Titles, Sir! "

            If you answered like that they would've known you were destined for the upper echelon of public employment.

            (Which of course if that's where they're aiming to be,
            you wouldn't of been hired.)



            It's either that or they printed up their questionnaire from a form they found on the Internet and are basically clueless which makes them absolutely destined to achieve the upper echelon of public employment.
            Lol so did I answer appropriately..?

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            • #7
              micro911
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 2346

              For custody, Title 15 pertains to inmates' rights and welfare. Title 22 may be related to it. I have never heard about it.

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                417atty
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                • #9
                  Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
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                  • Dec 2015
                  • 6504

                  Originally posted by 417atty
                  To elaborate further - California peace officers must have first aid and CPR training that meets Emergency Medical Services Authority (EMSA) guidelines under Title 22 of the California Code of Regulations.

                  The EMSA recently revised the course content of POST-certified first aid-related training and changed the instructor qualifications. I believe the new training guidelines require eight hours of refresher training every two years. Previously it was 12 hours every three years.
                  Gotchya. I have no idea why they would ask me that.
                  But thank you.

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                  • #10
                    Freeballer
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 524

                    When I was working corrections Title 15 was the main law of the land but title 22 mandated thing such as room size and building requirements. I had that same question in a promotional interview.
                    Last edited by Freeballer; 06-28-2016, 6:08 PM.

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                    • #11
                      esy
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 1197

                      Yeah, Title 15 is supposed to be the big deal in the custodial setting, however, with all of the lawsuits being filed against departments by ACLU, PLO, DRC, etc., etc., it's becoming ridiculous.

                      What's silly is they are beginning to say that they "don't care about Title 15" and are demanding more for the inmates, and winning! It's creating a sense of entitlement amongst the inmates, however, it can also be a good thing since it is hopefully forcing departments to hire more/pay more. From what I understand, many departments have already gotten sued and are feeling/reaping the effects.

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                      • #12
                        417atty
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                        • #13
                          BoJackUSMC
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                          • Aug 2010
                          • 7091

                          Title 22 is more like jail facility setting....
                          Cell size, dayroom size, phones, size of shower, etc..

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                          • #14
                            CaptMike
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1272

                            Title 15 deals with the day to day operations and inmate rights in correctional institutions such as when they get clean clothing, access to religious services, how often they must eat, access to a grievance procedure, etc.

                            Title 22 deals with the requirements to have a facility such as cell size, height of beds off of the floor, hiring and training standards for officers, rated capacities, Fire suppression systems, evacuation access during emergencies, etc.

                            I would have answered that question by saying that title 22 dealt with the physical layout and minimum standards to run an institution. I would have then given some examples such as those lusted above. I would have finished by saying that these standards are in place to ensure that those that are incarcerated by the courts have a facility that is humane and consistent with the norms that society has established.


                            Title 22 is not really known by most folks but is something that correctional officers should have a basic understanding of because it can affect their job. For example, can an inmate sleep on the floor. The answer is no. They must sleep on a bed that is at least 12 inches off of the floor. There could be emergency situations that require temporary removal of a bed, but this cannot be a standard practice because this is outlined in title 22.
                            A life is not important, except for the impact it has on other lives- Jackie Robinson

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                            • #15
                              Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
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                              • Dec 2015
                              • 6504

                              So it's basically an 8th amendment policy?

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