Proforce knowingly violate 18 USC 701

[bluesmoke9]

This is going to be interesting when an 1811 declines for them to copy the creds. Since it is a violation to copy federal credentials. It will be interesting when the AUSA files charges since this is a method to forge federal creds. ATF and all the other three letter agencies will be in on this.. If there is a increase in forged federal agency creds then Proforce will be the company blamed for providing the copies for the forgers..


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Just a bit of a stretch there...

[neomentat]

I guess, waiting in line for nearly 3hrs is worth saving a hundred bucks? Instead you could walk in and out in under 30 minutes at any one of the other many FFLS who know the law and care about "civilians"

I'm never going back to Proforce, I'm sure they don't care but they just lost a 10+ year customer for life.

Well, filed a complaint with Cal DOJ firearms bureau, we'll see what happens.

[CSACANNONEER]

I know it's not really close to you but, Addax Tactical is a Blue Box dealer and should be able to get you whatever you want in the way of Glocks.

[Rogue187]

Just a bit of a stretch there...

Not really must of a stretch. Because if they are not careful with the copies of the creds and they have a data breech.. the copies which were "safe" are no longer safe.

Remember that criminals take a lot of stuff.. the more intelligent ones just take the guns.. but as they did in the original Red Dawn.. look for the 4473's..

They have the addresses of all gun owners and guns they own when they filled out that 4473.

Easier to rob a house than a gun store..

[Mr310]

If you're 1811, it's not like everything from your SF86 isn't already out there..

[bluesmoke9]

Not really must of a stretch. Because if they are not careful with the copies of the creds and they have a data breech.. the copies which were "safe" are no longer safe.

Remember that criminals take a lot of stuff.. the more intelligent ones just take the guns.. but as they did in the original Red Dawn.. look for the 4473's..

They have the addresses of all gun owners and guns they own when they filled out that 4473.

Easier to rob a house than a gun store..

So, when the criminals (or Russian paratroopers) break into the gun store they'll take the 4473's so they can then go to the houses of armed police officers and take their guns?

[Garand1911]

Will they accept your professional business card ?

[code_blue]

Even the Glock Blue Label program advises to use their credential affidavit. No where do they require a copy of the ID.

[bluesmoke9]

Hey Feds, any update on Proforce? Has DOJ-BOF beaten them into submission yet?

[hey_scooter]

Hey Feds, any update on Proforce? Has DOJ-BOF beaten them into submission yet?

*looks up from researching TSP adjustments, house buying prospects, rewards points allotments for next vacation*

huh? oh...OH yea GRRRRRR DOWN WITH PROFORCE 18 USC 701 WE'RE GONNA GET EM GUYS RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

Wait look more OT! *disappears*

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Local LEO's have been having their creds photocopied since forever when buying firearms and magazines.

[Rogue187]

Local LEO's can have their creds copied..
There is a Federal Law prohibiting the copying of Federal Creds.

18 USC 701

Whoever manufactures, sells, or possesses any badge, identification card, or other insignia, of the design prescribed by the head of any department or agency of the United States for use by any officer or employee thereof, or any colorable imitation thereof, or photographs, prints, or in any other manner makes or executes any engraving, photograph, print, or impression in the likeness of any such badge, identification card, or other insignia, or any colorable imitation thereof, except as authorized under regulations made pursuant to law, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

[1895nSocal]

Proforce isn't the only place and it is coming from Sacramento. Cal DOJ is advising gun shops that ALL Federal LEO credentials must be copied to buy a firearm or get an exemption. This came from another gun shop who is no where near proforce and is very LE friendly. They were told that the state penal code over rides federal law.

[CSACANNONEER]

Proforce isn't the only place and it is coming from Sacramento. Cal DOJ is advising gun shops that ALL Federal LEO credentials must be copied to buy a firearm or get an exemption. This came from another gun shop who is no where near proforce and is very LE friendly. They were told that the state penal code over rides federal law.

LOL. I would love to see CA DOJ put that in writing.

[bluesmoke9]

LOL. I would love to see CA DOJ put that in writing.

It's kind of like sanctuary cities. Fed's aren't going to do anything about it.