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  • #31
    TripleThreat
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2012
    • 2637

    The question I care about is do you think his broken neck was justified?

    Most are willing to dismiss it because of Gray's race, after all it's a common occurrence today. Not sure if you're trying to be a trickster, but if that was your son, neighbor, brother etc., you would not be asking if the detention was justifiable, you'd ask was the in custody death justifiable.

    Triple
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    • #32
      1CavScout
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 3234

      Originally posted by TripleThreat
      The questions I care about is do you think his broken neck was justifiable?

      Most are willing to dismiss it because Gray's race, after all it's a common occurrence today. If that was your son, neighbor, brother etc., you would not be asking if the detention was justifiable, you'd ask was the in custody death justifiable.

      Triple
      You think Gray was killed because he was black, when the accused officer is also black?

      I will wait for all the evidence to come out, but the leaks so far do not look good for the prosecution.
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      • #33
        TRICKSTER
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Mar 2008
        • 12438

        Originally posted by TripleThreat
        The questions I care about is do you think his broken neck was justifiable?

        Most are willing to dismiss it because Gray's race, after all it's a common occurrence. If that was your son, neighbor, brother etc, you would not be asking if the detention was justifiable, you'd ask was the in custody death justifiable.

        Triple
        We don't know how his injuries occurred, but we do know what led up to the arrest so lets go one step at a time. Does the contact and detention appear to be legal?

        As far as those dismissing his death, I have yet to see anyone dismissing it because of his race but instead point to his criminal activities. You are the one that injected his race into the equation.

        And I expect family to not understand the legalities of the situation and let their emotions take over. But that is not how a professional LEO should operate, a professional LEO should be looking at all of the facts and evidence and not be ruled by emotions, that is how you determine how and what really happened and give the family what they deserve, the truth.


        Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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        • #34
          Ron-Solo
          In Memoriam
          • Jan 2009
          • 8581

          Anyone catch the fact that according to a police spokesman, the prosecutor is related to Gray?

          Conflict of interest maybe?
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          • #35
            keep_ur_powder_dry
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 594

            #onlyblacklivesmatter?

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            • #36
              yzErnie
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Mar 2007
              • 6309

              Originally posted by TripleThreat
              FWIW, I am a LEO and I'm one of the few that see and understands both sides.

              Triple
              Honest question....Are you a Peace Officer or a Police Officer/Deputy Sheriff?
              The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

              Originally posted by RazoE
              I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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              • #37
                Unit74
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 2359

                Originally posted by TripleThreat
                FWIW, I am a LEO and I'm one of the few that see and understands both sides.

                Triple
                I'm not what you would call a die hard cop. Was at one point, but I'd also be happy doing something else like working in the aviation industry or a motorcycle shop. I don't always side with the good old boys, such as what went down with the horse thief. They whooped his *** good, which was a departure from lawfulness in my view.

                Having said that, you are oblivious to actual facts. It's as if you are looking through spectacles which only allow propaganda and CNN-facts through. Anything relevant is immediately refuted with slander and misinformed jibber-jabber.

                Grey didn't deserve to die for his crimes in progress, but it's obvious to anyone with a broad spectrum view he was a participant in his demise. I am not convinced the LEs are the cause of his death, albeit they are involved parties.

                I think when we see the real facts in court, we all have the right to pass judgement. But not until it all comes out.

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                • #38
                  yzErnie
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 6309

                  Originally posted by Unit74
                  I think when we see the real facts in court, we all have the right to pass judgement. But not until it all comes out.
                  Great comment. Just wish the keyboard commandos and Monday Morning Quarterbacks had the same mindset.
                  The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

                  Originally posted by RazoE
                  I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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                  • #39
                  • #40
                    CBR_rider
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 2698

                    I'm going to go with its more of a the facts contained don't jive with murder charges versus they are trying to protect the integrity (lol) of the investigation.
                    Originally posted by bwiese
                    [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
                    Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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                    • #41
                      bonusweb
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 1189

                      Originally posted by CBR_rider
                      I'm going to go with its more of a the facts contained don't jive with murder charges versus they are trying to protect the integrity (lol) of the investigation.
                      My guess is they hope to get an all black local jury, then that pesky "evidance" won't get in the way of al sharpton style "justice". The general public and police department will just have guess what's going on.

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                      • #42
                        pacrat
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2014
                        • 10283

                        Anyone but me notice the deafening silence regarding the statement given by the other occupant in the back of the fatefull van?

                        Ya know, the fella that stated that poor dead Freddie spent his time in there yelling and screaming and slamming himself against the walls in an effort to harm himself. Possibly so he could later claim brutality on the part of the arresting officers.

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                        • #43
                          Redemption
                          Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 430

                          Couldnt that statement be taken both ways? I mean one can make the same claim in either direction there, only guy that knows is the guy who gave the statement.

                          Originally posted by pacrat
                          Anyone but me notice the deafening silence regarding the statement given by the other occupant in the back of the fatefull van?

                          Ya know, the fella that stated that poor dead Freddie spent his time in there yelling and screaming and slamming himself against the walls in an effort to harm himself. Possibly so he could later claim brutality on the part of the arresting officers.
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                          • #44
                            bonusweb
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1189

                            Originally posted by Redemption
                            Couldnt that statement be taken both ways? I mean one can make the same claim in either direction there, only guy that knows is the guy who gave the statement.
                            For all we know the report could have shown him to be smoking PCP prior to the injury.

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                            • #45
                              pitbuljake
                              Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 226

                              FWIW, from the John & Ken show (L.A. area) today.

                              Some experts say that the main explanation for the crime surge are due to the spate of stories that paint American Police Departments as unsympathetic and are a threat to the communities they police. Highly publicized deaths like Eric Garner, Michael Brown and Freddie Gray have led to riots, violent protests and even attacks on police.


                              Read more: http://www.kfiam640.com/onair/john-a...#ixzz3cETSIVCu


                              They discussed a recent Wall Street Journal article "Are police officers racist". Though I don't subscribe so I can't post a link. I've also heard that police that patrol the recent rioted area's are no longer being proactive therefore the criminals are running loose in the streets, while the police just drive by and don't see a damn thing.

                              So, for all the cop hating posters on this forum, be careful what you wish for!

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