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  • SoCalDep
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 815

    Name your dream duty guns!

    So...This being California...The land of wishful thinking when it comes to firearms... Let's have a wish list thread.

    Question #1

    If, today, your agency said you could carry, and the department would pay for any handgun in a traditional handgun caliber (let's say .22 up to .50AE...No traditional rifle calibers), but you have to pick RIGHT NOW, what handgun would you pick to carry?

    My choice: Springfield Professional 1911.


    Question #2

    If you were approached by a manufacturer and allowed to design a "signature" duty handgun using an existing design concept, what would it be? What requirements would you set, what features would you demand, and why? This isn't a "laser gun" concept, but taking existing technology and maximizing it...

    My choice:

    I had the opportunity to try an STI Tactical .45 and I really like some of the technology, but I'd prefer the following:

    STI 2011-style polymer frame 9mm with 5" barrel. High cap magazines designed for around 18-20rounds but not based on competition requirements like current mags - designed around reliability - even if sacrificing a round or two. I really like my S&W E-series external extractor, so I'm ok with (and actually really like) an ex-ex if they can design it to work like S&W did. Plunger tube must be integral to the steel chassis frame like current STIs. It should come with a fitted single-side safety similar to the Wilson Combat Bullet-Proof tactical safety or a fitted ambi-safety (also Wilson BP) for lefties. Sights should be as follows: Rear sight must be durable protected adjustable serrated with horizontal bar tritium insert (kinda like the older MMC sights). Front sight should have tritium insert with white ring. I'm fine with Series 80-type safeties but I'm not a fan of the Swartz, so if they wanna pay royalties then fine, otherwise a titanium firing pin and extra power spring should do fine.

    The polymer frame should have enough grip to ensure good purchase even when wet or oily, but not be so aggressive as to destroy clothing or forearms when carried in a holster. The firearm must have a rail for mounting a weapon-light.

    On my ideal gun the trigger will be short to medium length and solid. The finish will be black or grey and can be a cerakote-type or melonite finish.

    Basically my ideal duty gun is a reliable high-capacity 9mm 1911-style handgun.
  • #2
    micro911
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 2346

    A Glock or striker fired pistols with a safety lever would be good.

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    • #3
      CT-Copper
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2015
      • 64

      Question#1
      Believe it or not, a Glock 19

      Question#2
      A Glock 10mm in a mid size 19/23 frame

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      • #4
        roushstage2
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 2782

        Despite being a Springfield guy, I'd be fine with the Glocks that we will eventually transition to in probably 2-3 years over our current S&W Model 64s :P

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        • #5
          SoCalDep
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 815

          Originally posted by CT-Copper
          Question#1
          Believe it or not, a Glock 19

          Question#2
          A Glock 10mm in a mid size 19/23 frame
          I love my Glock 19 and for me it's the #1 off-duty pick...If only we were allowed to carry them.

          Now...A Glock 29 has been on my wish list for a while, and while close, a 10mm in a 19ish frame (full-finger grip but still compact) would be a MUST HAVE!

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          • #6
            CT-Copper
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 64

            I used to think the the G19 was too small for a duty handgun. But my girlfriends agency issues it as a duty gun and I have to say its a nice overall package. As a plus, it doubles as a great off-duty piece as you mentioned.

            In my book(which means nothing!), the 10MM is really the only mainstream round that has anything on the 9mm. 40, 45….marginal if any. Not to start that war in this thread!
            Last edited by CT-Copper; 03-08-2015, 9:00 PM.

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            • #7
              CBR_rider
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 2706

              I'm "that guy" who doesn't really care... Beretta Storm, Beretta 90-Two, Glock 17, 19, 20, 22, or maybe 18C (just to say I am carrying one...), HK; I just want it to shoot 9mm, 10mm, .40, or .45 and go "bang" when I pull the trigger. I want a light rail and a trigger with a pull between 4.5 and 6lbs for single action; trigger doesn't have to be perfect but must be consistent. Boring, I know...
              Originally posted by bwiese
              [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
              Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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              • #8
                stormvet
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2010
                • 12681

                Gen 4 22 working out just fine.
                Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                • #9
                  Bobby Ricigliano
                  Mit Gott und Mauser
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 17439

                  I love 1911's and like the OP's idea of a Springfield Professional as it is a great handgun. However, if I owned one I'd never carry it as a duty weapon for the following reasons:

                  1) Too nice and expensive for the wear and tear of duty use. In and out of holster, in and out of rusty gun lockers, banging against car doors, etc.

                  2) Full sized 1911 is a heavy gun with low capacity. That means at least 4 extra magazines on the belt = heavier belt and back strain.

                  Even with any option, I'd stick with the M&P 9mm I already have, although just to be cool I'd carry my VTAC M&P since it is FDE and has better sights and trigger than my stock M&P.

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                  • #10
                    HP911
                    Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 159

                    I'd be happy with any Glock model. I'm not a huge fan of the P226 I'm required to carry.

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                    • #11
                      Vaps
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 12

                      I would like to carry on duty the H&K VP9. Have had mine for a few months and would have no problem carrying that on duty.

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                      • #12
                        Che762x39
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 4538

                        Colt Government in 45 ACP.

                        Numerous occasions when bad guys could not figure out how to use it. i.e., the Squeeky Froome attempted assassination of President Ford for one. Weapon retention if you could put a firearm in a holster it can come out. Bad guy gets a hold of your Glock you are in deep kimchi. In 30 years I had three attempts to take my gun as I recall and I am still here. Luck has been on my side a lot!

                        Stay safe mi amigos
                        Last edited by Che762x39; 03-10-2015, 11:41 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Khromo
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 742

                          For open carry, a SIG P226 that I have been shooting for years. I have enough practice with the DA pull and with the DA/SA transition. .40 S&W.

                          For concealed carry, a SIG P239, also in .40 S&W. The two pistols operate the same, and the issues with the triggers are substantially identical, so practice pretty much works for both. Not the lightest or most modern choices, but decades of familiarity make all the difference for this particular shooter.

                          My dream gun would be an alloy frame SIG with a better double action pull, maybe a lower bore axis, a light rail on a big gun, served with a hot pastrami sandwich.

                          Except for the light rail and pastrami san, I'm probably dreaming.
                          "Self defense is not a fashion show. A defensive handgun is not a little black dress, or a purse."
                          Remember, the overwhelming majority of anti-gun thinkers are not stupid enough to be "afraid of guns." They are afraid of stupid/immature/crazy psycho people with guns.
                          And as always, being friendly, courteous, and respectful is the easiest way to bend people to your will.

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                          • #14
                            WyattandDoc
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 767

                            I'm getting the Sig-227 TacOps when I can get my hands on one.
                            Knives don't stab people, cars don't drive drunk, eating utensils don't make you fat and pencils don't mis-spell words.

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                            • #15
                              LtJim
                              Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 180

                              Started with Smith & Wesson Model 19.

                              In the middle were Sig P220 - Beretta 92 G

                              Ended with Beretta 96 G

                              The only thing that remained constant throughout the 30 yrs was Hair, a Pair of Aviator style sunglasses and the traditional "Sam Elliott" Mustache!

                              WHATS WRONG WITH THE KIDS TODAY???? Going Code 3, clean shaven and Sporting a Dr Evil shaved head!

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