MAWP

[commanche1_6]

Ok, so PCS'ing to California soon. I have spent my whole career in the gun loving "good guy" states and have accumulated a decent amount of hardware.
I read the thread on the MAWP but it seems to have been dead for quite awhile.
Has anyone had any luck getting a base commander to sign off on one of these? I have no problem standing on the carpet to explain it but don't want to get laughed out of the office.

[TAK]

On Pendleton you have to bring firearms to PMO and they won't sign off unless it meets their standards.

But regardless why not just live off base and you can have all the "hardware" you want.

[Librarian]

But regardless why not just live off base and you can have all the "hardware" you want.

Because the State of California says it's a felony to import guns it calls 'assault weapons' - unless one can get permission from the state, such as the MAWP.

[ldsnet]

Good luck! I have not heard of any Navy commanders that have signed off on a MAWP letter.

[jaustin612]

hate to break it to you but California does not give a flying **** about service members 2a rights either.

It used to be that if you were PCS'ing to CA and were not a CA resident, that if you would bribe-err, "pay" the CA DOJ 78 dollars or something around that you could register and possess "Assault Weapons" Standard cap mags were still a no go unless you owned them prior to 2000 or whenever the crap happened.

So now, fast forward a couple of years. Arbitrarily, without any real reason why, CA DOJ decided to reword the permit, to that it states that in laymens terms, you have to have the base commanding officer sign off on it, as well as the weapons had to be deemed necesary for training use.

Lets break this down a little I will be stationed on MCRD in a month or so. The commanding officer, of MCRD is A Brigadier ****ing General. There is no way that he will sign that off, it wouldn't even make it past the company level. because basically if something did ever happen, whoever signed that document of approval would be viewed as at fault, and the military is all about covering our asses from liability.

Also the verbage for being necesary for training? WTF when in the hell has a privately owned weapon ever been used for training.


In short, Californias feel good leftist government has taken away your right to possess your personal property will being stationed here, oftentimes not even up to us in the first place....

honestly, its a bit of a tangent that I just launched, but the MAWP getting gutted and rebuilt was the straw that broke my back with ever voluntarily living here.

[commanche1_6]

I am going to be heading to the Naval Post Graduate School in Monterey. Obviously there is going to be no training requirement for my personal AR's, of which I have three. I just have nowhere else to take them. I know I have been working in a strange part of the military but I don't know any of my commanders that would not sign off on this. They are all gun guys though.

[commanche1_6]

I also read about the fact that military owned magazines are exempt from the "high capacity," ban.
How do they know the difference? Over my time I have accumulated probably three different types of 30rd 5.56 mags from over nine or ten manufacturers. All issued by the military.

[phenamunan]

I feel your pain. One of my rifles is being babysat by a buddy of mine in AZ. ARs can be made CA legal though. There are also ways around the magazine thing in state.

[CS6sar]

Hey guys, I'm PCS'ing to Commiefornia from Virginia. Just looked at this link and my heart sunk. I have numerous pistols and rifles that will now have to be "modified, sold, kept out of state, or destroyed (magazines)", according to the laws they want to pass.
Any word if any of the BULL**** passed?

http://smartgunlaws.org/tracking-state-gun-laws-2013-california-firearms-legislation/

[ldsnet]

Don't Destroy/Sell ANYTHING! Your stay in CA won't be for ever. Dis-assemble and store with a reliable individual OUT of CA. Right now, nothing new has been signed into law. Bullet Button for semi-autos with features and order 10 round magazines for the rest. IF you have a NAMED assault rifle, there is no help with a BB for those to enter CA. Read the flow chart and the Wiki.

[CALRaider]

Good luck! I have not heard of any Navy commanders that have signed off on a MAWP letter.

Jamie Franks has his...so....

[Librarian]

Hey guys, I'm PCS'ing to Commiefornia from Virginia. Just looked at this link and my heart sunk. I have numerous pistols and rifles that will now have to be "modified, sold, kept out of state, or destroyed (magazines)", according to the laws they want to pass.
Any word if any of the BULL**** passed?

http://smartgunlaws.org/tracking-sta...s-legislation/

Nothing new has yet passed - Bills go to the Governor near the end of September.

[domcintosh]

Hey guys, I'm PCS'ing to Commiefornia from Virginia. Just looked at this link and my heart sunk. I have numerous pistols and rifles that will now have to be "modified, sold, kept out of state, or destroyed (magazines)", according to the laws they want to pass.
Any word if any of the BULL**** passed?

http://smartgunlaws.org/tracking-sta...s-legislation/

I just PCSed to Monterey myself. I left everything that didn't meet CA laws with family in Montana. I also made note that I probably can't sell any of my handguns, and that I won't be buying any of the CA neutered firearms.

[roll2li]

You can sell your handguns here no problem via private party transfer (I'm assuming you're talking about off list, non-CA compliant firearms). However, you need to be careful in the quantity of sales so you aren't labeled as an "importer," the limit is four times a year. Off roster sales can't be shipped in this state either.

[domcintosh]

You can sell your handguns here no problem via private party transfer (I'm assuming you're talking about off list, non-CA compliant firearms). However, you need to be careful in the quantity of sales so you aren't labeled as an "importer," the limit is four times a year. Off roster sales can't be shipped in this state either.

I am, and if I am reading CA Penal code 32000 correctly, I can't.

32000. (a) Commencing January 1, 2001, any person in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state for sale, keeps for sale, offers or exposes for sale,

As I read it, since the 'import' and 'offers/exposes' clauses are separate, even though I am not considered a Personal Firearm Importer per penal code 17000, I still couldn't sell my 'unsafe' handgun, unless the buyer was exempted. Then there are the rest of the pot wholes in Article 5 to trip over. Admittedly, I am not a lawyer, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn express last night either.