Camp Pendleton Weapons Regulations

[Clownpuncher]

STITCH,

I think NOVATOR was referring to this section regarding handguns. They do tell you that you must fill out a "HANDGUN OWNERSHIP REPORT" at the BOF website.

The base does not ask for proof of handgun registration with the state, but they do tell you that in order to comply with CA law that you must do this. We all know this to be incorrect, but I was unable to get them to change the policy. I am not a lawyer, and the lawyers on base are quick to remind you of that fact.

I have found very few helpful staff on base, and unfortunately many anti 2A witch-hunters.

There are a group of civilians that work in police records. Most of them are helpful and they now use Calguns flowcharts for accuracy.

Funny how they just "tell" you to comply with CA law and register your hand gun with the state, most likely assuming that people checking in probably don't know, but they confiscate your AW if you are missing a BB which I would imagine a fair number of people don't know as well. Wonder how many are now owned by the civilians at PMO.

While I think this post is a great idea, unfortunately, anyone who lurks on here or reads here will most likely never need the post. It's the poor saps from backwoods nowhere that think all gun laws are like their state that will make the mistake of bringing their weapons in because they know that's what they have to do and they get hemmed up on a technicality.

[boomer135]

great break down of the CP regs, I have had little success in making corrections to Regulations in my years. Sometimes you grin, and take it in

[10mm]

Did Feinstein draft this policy or what? Sure does look like they don't trust Marines to be able to act resposibly with their personal weapons. Pretty sad.

[SilverTauron]

You're not registering your weapon to CA, but to Camp Pendleton base itself. Every military base you go it's the same.

Uh, no its not.

True every military base requires registration, but a word to the wise :Any member who PCS's or TDY's with firearms had best check with their destination base before arrival on the regulations!

Case in point:at my last Air Force duty station the base regulations mirror Helmandhunter's post save for two exclusions; all weapons registered on base have to be signed into and out of the armory, and whenever a member transported a firearm they have to proceed directly to the nearest gate with no stops in between.

I've posted about a previous example regarding Alaska's Army Bases banning concealed carry off post, and I know at one point in time right after Ft Hood POWs were outright banned on several military bases. When even the smallest breach in firearm regulation is enforceable under the UCMJ, its wise for the member to accomplish their due diligence on gun laws of their duty station.

[SilverTauron]

Sure does look like they don't trust Marines to be able to act resposibly with their personal weapons. Pretty sad.

Not to judge the Marine Corps' chain of command, but that's exactly why the regs are written as they are.

In the modern military metrics are the lifeblood of Officer life. Entire careers live and die at the whims of Excel spreadsheets, and "Base Accident & Crime Rates" are one of them. If so much as ONE Airman, Marine, Sailor or Soldier ends up dead or injured due to some member-initiated stupidity involving a firearm , it goes into official record that Incident X happened on Commander Y's Watch. Too many criminal incidents involving weapons means no Generals' stars for Commander Y.

Thus the restrictive regulations. Should the lead fly and a military member end up shot, the Wing King can tell his boss "It was out of my hands. The gun wasn't registered." Or "After this incident, I've ordered Security Forces to take Airman So-and-So's guns into police custody".More insidiously, if anyone in your Chain of Command gets "concerned" about your mental state they know exactly where to snag your guns and can order you disarmed by decree.

Honestly, the base gun regs are bad but a manageable hassle. The Lautenberg Amendment is a real b!tch, because if your lady friend civilian or military gets pissy she can end your military career with one phone call to the base Sexual Assault Office. I've heard my friends wife brag about doing just that during an argument I sadly had the 'honor' to witness.

[Novator]

This insanity is why I enjoy living off base. No need for big brother navy to know what I have, and no degenerate MAs messing with my toys (apologies and thanks to the good MAs who have to deal with the reputation).

[Noonanda]

This process forgotten and must be repeated every 2-3 years with PMO due to personel turnover, when I registered my Locked mag AR and AK on base back in 2006/2007 I had to fight with them and show them they were legal, then in 2009/2010 had to do the same thing again with a new bullet button AR and AK-74. Like damn ground hog day. Glad I live out in town now, PITA. But the weapons you register do stay in the system, was getting decals up here at 29 palms and the PMO desk person was like "looks like your a gun nut", the records stay in the system regardless of which base you are at.

[HelmandHunter]

NOONANDA,

I transferred from 29 Palms, and they use the same system over there as they do in Camp Pendleton. Its the CLEOC, or Consolidated Law Enforcement Operations Center, which holds a database. They are able to track transactions between Marines and transfers from the bases. I am assuming all MCI West uses this system. I deactivated my weapons in 29, only to drive to Pendleton, where they pulled up my file and just clicked 'reactivate' with my new address on base Camp Pendleton.

[10mm]

Not to judge the Marine Corps' chain of command, but that's exactly why the regs are written as they are.

In the modern military metrics are the lifeblood of Officer life. Entire careers live and die at the whims of Excel spreadsheets, and "Base Accident & Crime Rates" are one of them. If so much as ONE Airman, Marine, Sailor or Soldier ends up dead or injured due to some member-initiated stupidity involving a firearm , it goes into official record that Incident X happened on Commander Y's Watch. Too many criminal incidents involving weapons means no Generals' stars for Commander Y.

Thus the restrictive regulations. Should the lead fly and a military member end up shot, the Wing King can tell his boss "It was out of my hands. The gun wasn't registered." Or "After this incident, I've ordered Security Forces to take Airman So-and-So's guns into police custody".More insidiously, if anyone in your Chain of Command gets "concerned" about your mental state they know exactly where to snag your guns and can order you disarmed by decree.

Honestly, the base gun regs are bad but a manageable hassle. The Lautenberg Amendment is a real b!tch, because if your lady friend civilian or military gets pissy she can end your military career with one phone call to the base Sexual Assault Office. I've heard my friends wife brag about doing just that during an argument I sadly had the 'honor' to witness.

Wow, thanks for the excellent critical thinking!:thumbup: